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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by rugerman45, Jul 25, 2008.

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  1. rugerman45

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    has any one had any exp with the federal hst and what do u think of them.
     
  2. Disaster

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    Great stuff. One of the most consistent expanding HP's out there...won't get clogged by clothes. I've found the tips can get deformed on some feedramps and like all big holed HP's, not all guns feed it well. However, if a gun won't feed an effective HP like a HST or GoldDot, I'm not interested in the gun.

    Go with the heavier rounds. They penetrate better and HST's don't require high velocity to expand so their slower speed isn't an issue.
     
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    I've yet to try any of this ammo. Is it a derivative of the Hydrashok?
     
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    My department uses them and they have worked very well.
     
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    Plus the HST seems to use its front core to expand, and the longer heavier bullets have more up front to work with, so they tend to actually expand a little better than the lighter weights. Counterintuitive after twenty odd years of 147s being the lowballers in expansion.
     
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    Good stuff. Some guns might not like to feed them due to a wide sharp mouth so test them well in your gun.
     
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    PMC Starfire is the older brother to the HST.
     
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    I have yet to find this round in the local shops, where would one acquire this load?
     
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    It is a restricted to LE sales only item. Most dealers can not get it. I ran out of inventory and have been waiting on back orders.
     
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    Have them in all my guns, 9mm, .40, .45. No jams in Glocks, Sigs and a Colt. Can find it at ammunitiontogo.com and streichers.com.
     
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    HST is the replacement for the old Hydrashok line.

    HST is NOT restricted to law enforcement sales. My local store stocks it and sells to everyone just like any other brand/model.
     
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    I think its like the Winchester Ranger line, packed in 20 round plastic boxes for $20 for civilians as SXT, or packed 50 round LEO paper boxes for $25 as Ranger.

    I just got some 9mm 147gr HydraShockTactical 50 round boxes of "Law Enforcement Ammunition" from Sportsman's Guide. There are no restrictions, just different distribution channels.

    --wally.
     
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    HST was to replace the Hi Shock line. It was originally packaged in the box marked Classic.

    After the recall it was marketed under the Premium line. Sales were still restricted to LE.

    In 2006 Federal decided to follow Winchesters lead and placed their LE rounds under the restricted Tactical line. Now there are several different bullet designs like Bonded, EFMJ, HST, and Hydra-Shock in the Tactical box.

    Ammo can be found on the net and some times a gun shows or in a few shops. Since it is a restricted sale item most places can not get it. Many Federal dealers have never even heard of it since it is not in their catalog.

    Federal is in the process of cracking down on us dealers that sale Tactical ammo to non LE. Places that have it now may not have it tomorrow.

    There has been talk of the HST ammo being moved to the regular commercial line of ammo in the next few years .
     
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    That's pretty hard to believe. One of the largest stores in Massachusetts announced recently (within the last 3-4 months I'd say) that they now formally carry HST, available to all customers. They've actually had it available in dribs and drabs for at least a year, but it was hit and miss - I often couldn't find the caliber I wanted, or just found one or two boxes hidden among the Hydrashok.

    Massachusetts has among the most restrictive firearm and ammo laws in the country. Our gun stores are constantly in fear of being shut down by the State on some trumped up charge. Few if any out of state retailers will even ship ammo to Mass residents for fear of being taken to court by the AG (in spite of the fact that there are no actual laws prohibiting such shipments).

    So if one of our most visible and vigilant stores is now openly advertising and selling HST to the general public, I have full confidence that they've done their homework and verified there are no issues with doing that. They do a lot of business with Federal and I'm sure if Federal had a problem with it they wouldn't do it.
     
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    I don't think it has any thing to do with state restrictions...unless you are in Jersey. It is more of a marketing trick. They can sell it to consumers for way more in 20 round cartons and pretend they are being "responsible" at the same time.
     
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    It is Federal's rule to restrict it not any law.
     
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    Just for the record, the Winchester SXT that is sold in the 20-packs is NOT the same as the LE Rangers. I have tested both, and the civilian stuff is absolute trash compared to the real deal. With that said I buy HST.
     
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