Federal LE132 1B FliteControl load.

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Last year some people started touting the release of the Federal LE132 1B FliteControl load.

This crops up every once in a while and from what I can see this rumor has been alive for some time now.

No one's selling it and a lot of places have never heard of it.

What a freakin' crock of cracp.
 
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NOLAEMT said:
A little research goes a long way...

http://le.atk.com/general/federalproducts/shotshell/tacticalbuckshot.aspx
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Show me some.

Tell me where to get it.

Do you know anyone who has any?

Do you know anyone who has seen any?

Do you know anyone who has shot any?

How much does it cost?

Who sells it?

Don't make me laugh. I think your "research" uncovered a marketing ploy by Federal.

I believe Federal started the rumor and I'm sure Federal is monitoring the emails and phone calls they get on this load to gauge (pun intended) consumer interest.

If they get enough people expressing interest, they might actually make some.

I just wish people would stop saying the stuff is out there on the shelves.

It ain't.

Period.
 
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Don't they use that exact wad or a similar one in the Hornady TAP FPD? If you are looking for 00 buck that patterns very tight with an extremely consistent spread, I haven't found another. This from a cheap M500 Breacher at that. The load is 8 pellets at 1600fps, not too shabby. It is the only 00 load I bother with anymore, I can't envision one more perfect. At 25m, the pattern is about as big as a small dessert plate or a big tea saucer. On top of it all, this load had the lowest recoil of any load I tested save the Winchester LE. When you cut 'em open, the Hornady shot is the most round, they polish it too, and it seems a little harder.

If you want 'em in other loads besides the 00, I don't know what to say. The load you are looking for says 15 #1 pellets at 1100fps, but that is kind of anemic to 8 00 at 1600 if you ask me. And if you want that super tight group that wad is supposed to render, then you can most certainly get that from the 00 TAP FPD.

BTW, I got a BUNCH of different buck, all kinds, all loads, and this one outperformed every single one every single time. I knew little about buckshot going into this, so I tried as many as I could; I chrono'd 'em, patterened 'em and cut 'em open to examine. You should look long and hard at this one, and when you do get the one you are looking for, test it up against this one and see if you still want it.

The Hornady TAP FPD is also kind of easy to find and it comes in boxes of 5 or 10, but I think you can get 'em in bigger ones too.
 
We're talking about Federal BS, not Hornady TAP or Hornady Critical Defense.

But I agree with you. I've shot both of these Hornady loads and they pattern extremely well for home defense purposes.
 
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Virginian said:
If you're all that serious, get Ballistic Product's catalogs and do some reading and you can load whatever you desire as good as anyone anywhere.
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Nah, I don't have the equipment or knowledge to reload. But if you're all that serious, you make them for me. I'll buy them from you but they have to pattern like the FliteControl loads do or the Hornady Versatite loads do.

I just want to know why Federal has a link to LE132-1B, but doesn't sell it.

I'd also like to know why a few select people keep talking about this stuff AND IT IS NOT TO BE FOUND ANYWHERE.

It's not out there, boys. All your doing is "polishing your musket" with all this talk. If you want to do that, fine. Lube your barrel up and rub away with a cloth in your hand.

Just stop doing it in public.

"I talked to my contact at ATK/Federal and he says blah. blah blah."

"I talked to a guy at the ShotShow and he told me ... ."

"I know a guy who knows a guy who is a third cousin twice removed from a guy who used to work at SPEER, and he says ... ."

What BS. Quite a few guys seem to have a "contact" or "source" or "insider" at Federal. Either these guys are musket polishers or their "sources" are lying to them.

Either way, LE132-1B does not exist.

And you guys that say it exists, SHOW ME A BOX OF IT.
 
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I don't quite understand why you are so riled up about this? If they don't have it, they don't have it.

But after looking around some online, it seems that Federal plans to release it after the shotshow this month. So it makes sense that it is not available for sale yet, as Federal has not released it yet.
 
NOLAEMT said:
I don't quite understand why you are so riled up about this? If they don't have it, they don't have it.

But after looking around some online, it seems that Federal plans to release it after the shotshow this month. So it makes sense that it is not available for sale yet, as Federal has not released it yet.
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Riled? Maybe so. They've been "going to release it" for ages now.

And, if what you say is true, why do they have it on their website if it hasn't been released?

Personally, I think they're trying to promore interest in it and also gauge (pun intended) interest in it.

If they get enough emails/phone calls about it, maybe they will kick some out.
 
Perhaps, they are gauging interest, but many companies put things on their website before they are released for general consumption. I don't see them putting on their website and not releasing any. If anything I would think they will produce a run of this ammo, and watch to see how it sells, and then decide if they are going to keep it as a normal production run.

Hopefully they will release it though, I would like to try some. I currently have their LE127 00 in my gun, and I've been very happy with it, But 1B would be better in my application, in my opinion.
 
NOLAEMT said:
Perhaps, they are gauging interest, but many companies put things on their website before they are released for general consumption. I don't see them putting on their website and not releasing any. If anything I would think they will produce a run of this ammo, and watch to see how it sells, and then decide if they are going to keep it as a normal production run.

Hopefully they will release it though, I would like to try some. I currently have their LE127 00 in my gun, and I've been very happy with it, But 1B would be better in my application, in my opinion.
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What?????????

Nah, "many companies" do not list products on their websites as "for sale" when the product is not, in fact for sale.

I'd be interested in seeing some examples of other companies "marketing" products as if they have them for sale but really do not have the said product for sale and never have had the product for sale.

You make this sound as if a lot of companies due this as a matter of course. No, they really don't.

Federal features this stuff on their website and they even put it in a "comparison" box with their other LE loads which are on the market and for sale. It's a BS tactic.

Why are you defending Federal's misleading marketing? Or maybe you're not defending them but you're sure swallowing their BS hook, line and sinker. They don't sell it. They never have sold it.

But there are quite a few guys who look at the website and say, "Well, sure they sell it. It's listed on their website." You can probably find guys who will swear they've bought it and shot it.

Now we have you saying it will be released "after the 2012 Shotshow." Well hell, pick ANY date in the future. How about July 19, 2037? That's after the 2012 ShotShow.

What a joke.

You boys just keep polishing your muskets until this stuff hits the market. Bet your arm falls off before you see any for sale. :)
 
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CJ_74 said:
I've seen other companies do this or close to it. I looked all over the US for a Savage rifle that was listed on their website for almost 2 months and all I got was promises that it could be ordered but not right away and "my distributor is out of them right now but they'll have them soon". I finally got tired of waiting and bought a rifle I saw in a shop that was close to what I wanted even though it wasn't the caliber I wanted. Turned out the one I bought was probably better anyway but still. Either they sell them or they don't. Waiting a year to get one is not something I'm going to do from a manufacturer like Savage. I might wait for a custom rifle but that's a whole different story.
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Well, that's one company. And it if Savage did this, it's a crappy way to do business.

There used to be a little thing called "truth in advertising."

I guess we've gotten so used to being lied to by those trying to sell us things that we have forgotten about truth in advertising and holding businesses to some at least minimal standards.

Federal saying (implying) this stuff is for sale by featuring it on their website side by side with their other LE buckshot loads is pretty shoddy.

Screw Federal.
 
I believe the LE 132 00 is a 9 pellet reduced recoil 00 buckshot, vs. the le 133 00 which is a 8 pellet 00 load.
 
Your link leads to Federal Tactical 00 Buckshot 2 3/4" Full-Power 9 Pellet 12 Gauge.

We're talking about a different load that Federal has on their website but they don't offer for sale.
 
Ever read the comic strip Dilbert? There's a reason the engineers loathe the guys in marketing.

Vaporware happens. If Federal was floating a trial balloon to test the interest in FliteControl buckshot, the market would be flooded by now, judging by the amount of interest shown on the internet.

My guess would be that the demand for hunting loads has overwhelmed the available supply of FliteControl wads and that supply will be tight until the bottleneck is resolved.

Relax, it's not like you can't get buckshot to tide you over until the new stuff is readily available.
 
Oh my....in today's world, with so many legitimate concerns, someone is this upset about a product that has only made it as far as a company's website?? C'mon man....cut out the coffee or whatever it is thats making you so irate. I would be...at absolute most...mildly annoyed...if I found myself in a similiar situation. What gives? Why so angry? Counted no less than a dozen posts with you going off about this. Really?
 
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Davek1977 said:
Oh my....in today's world, with so many legitimate concerns ... . Really?
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Daveyboy,

I noted you used the oh so au courant "Really?" in your little epistle

I've noticed a lot of the people I work with are using "Really?" too. From the context I hear it used in I guess it's kind of a term of derision used to express disbelief at something someone considers stupid.

I've noticed the little parrots that are running around saying "Really?" are the same idiots who are addicted to reality tv and talk about it all day long. I laugh my ass off when they stand in a little group and try to "out Really" each other.

Really? Yes. it't true.

Anyway, Li'l Davy, you sound like one of the reality tv crowd who doesn't care about much besides changing the channel and running to the refrigerator when the commercials come on.

If you don't mind Federal polishing your musket, then sit back and enjoy it.

To me, this crap Federal is pulling is a legitimate concern. And acceptance of this type of crap by people is indicative of the dumbing down of America.

"Duh, I don't care. They say they got it to sell. But they ain't got it to sell. Who cares? Duh."

"Duh, they say they guarantee their products but they really don't. Duh, who cares? I got more money."

"Duh, there's no point in trying to hold manufacturers to their word. Duh, who cares? Turn on that show where the guy beats the crap out of his mother-in-law. I love that show. It's great!"

Really?
 
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Legitimate concern, illegitimate concern (maybe this concern's parents weren't married?) -- whatever. Doesn't seem to be much anyone here can do about it.

So, when you called Federal, what did they say?
 
Sam1911 said:
Legitimate concern, illegitimate concern (maybe this concern's parents weren't married?) -- whatever. Doesn't seem to be much anyone here can do about it.

So, when you called Federal, what did they say?
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Call Federal? deleted Federal. They are lying about this. Why should I call them and be Fed more lies?
 
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CJ_74 said:
Then there's this web page. It sure seems like someone was selling the LE132-00 but who knows for sure. It could have been BS for all I know.
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cj,

We're mostly talking about the non-existent Federal LE132-1B.

The LE132-00 does exist and is on shelves. But this is not about the LE132-00.

This is a perfect example of confusion caused by Federal's BS.
 
Call Federal? [deleted ]Federal. They are lying about this. Why should I call them and be Fed more lies?
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Ooooohkay then. There's REALLY nothing we can do to help you here.

If anyone locates any of this load, send me a PM and we'll update this thread.
 
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