Federal LE132-1B *pics*
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allaroundhunter
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Very impressive pattern, is that top target a #1 buck load?
And were you testing these as possible new defensive loads?
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And were you testing these as possible new defensive loads?
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If you check the targets (zoom in on your phone) you can probably read the writing. I labeled each one.
The headshot is one LE132-00 at 21 feet.
Yes, testing for defensive load/use. The #1 will be loaded as the round in the chamber and the first 4 out of the tube after I clean/lube the gun and reload it. I've been using the LE132-00 for that. I will continue to have the last two out of the tube (it holds 6) be Hornady TAP 8 pellet 00 lite mag (their wad technology is licensed from Federal, I believe, very nice as well). Slugs on the side saddle.
I didn't test between 21 feet and 25 yards because I cannot see any distance markers beyond 21' (if there are any, even) but I know it's 25 yards if you run the target all the way to the back.
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Kinda surprised the 25 yard pattern wasn't tighter. Federal LE 127-00 out of my favorite 18" 870 will print 4" patterns all day long at that range.
That's just crazy. It's amazing what they have done vs regular old buckshot.
allaroundhunter
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I haven't shot any #1 buck that would print that tight of a pattern out of an 18" barrel, but I have not tried many load/choke combinations, either. I would be very satisfied with that. But yes, I would expect a better pattern out of a 00 Buck load.
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Fred Fuller
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I've never found ANY barrel that would pattern any load of #1 buck worth a darn, and I've been looking since I first heard of its theoretical advantages in a hunter education class back in the 1970s. I know they're out there, but I've never owned one.
I'm more than happy with the pattern I posted.
14 out of 15 pellets high COM at 25 yards from a cylinder bore is most excellent IMO
Inebriated
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I cant see the pics, warp. Says it was deleted or moved.
Anyway, I know Federal's Flite Control wad is just... magical. I use LE127-00 myself, and like Fred said... tight patterns at distances that buckshot was never designed for. Love the stuff.
Anyway, I know Federal's Flite Control wad is just... magical. I use LE127-00 myself, and like Fred said... tight patterns at distances that buckshot was never designed for. Love the stuff.
Inebriated
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It does change it.
But yeah, those patterns are great. I'm not a fan of 1B, but that seems to be one of the tightest 1B patterns I've seen. That 00 pattern is the shining example of why I use it, though.
But yeah, those patterns are great. I'm not a fan of 1B, but that seems to be one of the tightest 1B patterns I've seen. That 00 pattern is the shining example of why I use it, though.
The LE127 is very nice.
I just noticed a dyslexic moment/typo: On my target I meant to write LE132-00 for the headshot, not LE123.
I have LE132-00, LE127-00, LE132-1B, PD132-00, and Hornady TAP lite mag 8 pellet 00. My understanding is that they all use the same wad/cup technology (hornady licensed from federal) and they all pattern very, very well.
I am also positive that there is no difference between the LE and PD lines of ammunition, IE: LE132-00 is the same thing as PD132-00
I just noticed a dyslexic moment/typo: On my target I meant to write LE132-00 for the headshot, not LE123.
I have LE132-00, LE127-00, LE132-1B, PD132-00, and Hornady TAP lite mag 8 pellet 00. My understanding is that they all use the same wad/cup technology (hornady licensed from federal) and they all pattern very, very well.
I am also positive that there is no difference between the LE and PD lines of ammunition, IE: LE132-00 is the same thing as PD132-00
Velocity/recoil. The 127 is a full power 2 3/4" rated at 1325 FPS, the 132 is low recoil and rated at 1145 FPS. Both are 9-00 pellets. The 1B is, to my knowledge, only currently available as 132 and is 15 pellets rated at 1100 FPS. The Hornady TAP light magnum is 8-00 pellets rated at 1,600 FPS. It's pretty hot.
Cesiumsponge
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So where are a few vendors selling Federal's LE132-1B in 5, 25, or 250 round quantities? I'm looking to pick up a case but can't find any from some usual sources I've checked. It's even more troublesome than trying to find Federal's LEB127LRS truball rifled slugs.
Cesiumsponge
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Can civilians order from there? I saw they carried both LE132-1B and LEB127LRS and I mocked an order to get shipping quotes and there is a page that insists you must be LEO only. The page for LEB127LRS says they only sell to LEO as well.
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I tried getting that ammo too but was not successful. I am using the Winchester Ranger LE, # RA12008. It is 00 buck with 8 pellets and gives a very good tight pattern -3 inches at 30 feet. It is low recoil. I use it in my 18" barrel Ithaca 37 HD guns . About a week ago I shot a wild boar in my Farm potato patch at about 25 yards and gave a quick kill with a large 4" hole in his chest wall. Needless to say I am impressed with this ammo , and it is available to non LE .
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I think I bought this Winchester LE ammo from "Lucky Gunner", which comes 25 in a box and the price was most reasonable for that type of ammo. Around the farm I use it frequently, hence I bought 5 boxes.
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Lucky gunner will sell Federal LE ammo to you, I was just on their web site and they have 8 pellet 00 buck. They also have the Hornady and Win Ranger too.
Cesiumsponge
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Is there a website where I can poke around? And is that his exact user name so I can PM? Thanks! It's getting to be a headche trying to find this premium stuff.
snooperman
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Just type in "luckygunner.com" and the web site should come up. They will have several LE buckshot loads under shotgun ammo from various manufacturers. Hope this helps... Snoop
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Like Fred, I have not gotten as good results with the #1 buck loads from my 18" Ithaca 37 guns nor the Remington 870 guns either. My smallest groups has always been with 00 buck.
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