Federal Tax on Ammo or Firearms

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I was just thinking about something, and wanted to see what some others thought. I know the current government says they don't have the political support to do much to restrict guns, but the idea of them raising taxes on firearms and/or ammo doesn't seem too far fetched to me.

You see, Bama and the dems recently raised taxes on tobacco products to pay for the expansion of a so-called children's health care program, i.e., SCHIP. In the newscoverage, there really wasn't much discussion about raising taxes, only coverage about the bad people who voted against children's healthcare.

Now, I don't smoke, but I told everyone about how mad I was about this because if the Government can single out tobacco users to pay for some cause the general public beleives is righteous, then they could do that to any group, including us who buy guns and ammunition. Am I being paranoid, or is this something to think about?

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Am I being paranoid, or is this something to think about?
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It's been brought up before, just never passed the legislature.

The current President once lobbied for a 500% ammo tax. I believe it was in 1999 when he was an Illinois legislator.
 
"Am I being paranoid........"


Yes but in this case it is more commonly referred to as the politics of fear.
 
AMMO TAX????!!!!!!!

I'd better fly into a paranoid panic and buy all of the ammunition I can find!

Oh, wait, there's no ammo to be found. I wonder why that is?
 
Get prepared for it. I think it's coming.
The FED just placed a 1.01 tax on a pack of smokes.
That's $10.10 a carton extra, to go into the chossen one's coffers.
Just went into effect a week or so ago.

You know they did it so they can price us out of
our habit 'for our own good'.
It's for the 'children' lol
 
I wonder if that might count as infringment?
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If gun owners are perfectly happy to accept background checks, assault weapon bans, and registration as not being infringement I doubt a silly tax would be....
 
Eh, I'll wait to see something introduced and gain traction before I lose any sleep.

One could go quite mad imagining all the possibile gun-grabbing bogeymen hiding under the bed. There's plenty of things we can act on now, instead of fretting about what might come to pass.
 
You got that right, Jorg!

Let's wait until a bill is introduced to raise ammunition taxes (if that happens), then we'll be able to deal with it by hounding our elected reps to oppose the bill.

There's no way to act on what we fear may hapen...:scrutiny:
 
AMMO TAX????!!!!!!!

I'd better fly into a paranoid panic and buy all of the ammunition I can find!

Oh, wait, there's no ammo to be found. I wonder why that is?
 
Just to clarify, I did not mean to rant on, generally, about a possble ammo tax. My point was to identify this concept of using one "worthwhile cause" to raise support to tax something that the broader population sees as not affecting them.

I feel that because this notion of paying for children's healthcare was introduced, a lot more attention was paid to helping children instead of focusing on the fact that the Government is punishing a minority group, i.e. smokers. Of course, this could be used against gunowners.

For example, how about we raise taxes on gunowners to pay for those new windmills or flatulent amoebas that will save the world? You do want to save the world, right?

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Eh, I'll wait to see something introduced and gain traction before I lose any sleep.
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If only the majority of people would think that way maybe I could feed my toys.
I almost wonder if the current frenzy could be a self-fulfilling prophecy. [OBAMA]"Due to the alarming proliferation of assault weapons and ammunition in this country I feel compelled to act immediately and enact an executive order or 1 gun per year and 250 rounds of ammunition per person. This may sound like a lot to most normal people but to gun nuts this is small potatoes."[/OBAMA]
 
Cause I'm the Tax man.... yeaaaahhhhh.... good times nowww(snap your fingers & sing)

If the obombinator can, @ the snap of his fingers, raise taxes on tobacco in the name of uninsured children, force the CEO of GM to resign, stand down, quit, whatever.... what makes you think he won't place a tax stamp requirement on primers? (like the $200 stamp on suppressors)

I wouldn't put it past him....

I don't forsee a tax on firearms cause then he would catch hell from us "Pro-Gunners", BUT..... the obombinator is just smart enough to find a way to put a MAJOR crimp in our RKBA w/o actually going against the 2nd Amendment.

I DO see some sort of tax (executive privalige) on primers & loaded ammo. Who's going to pay $5 a round to shoot? After all.... What good is a firearm w/o ammunition?

I just bought a fresh roll of aluminium foil, & am wiping down my "Evil Black Rifle". :fire::cuss::fire:
 
The idea of the 500% tax on firearms and ammo is one of the most misunderstood internet rumors. Most people read this to mean that a box of ammo that currently sells for $20 will go up to $100. Not so. There is already a tax on all ammo and gun sales and there has been since the 1930's. The current tax is about 11%. That means that a box of ammo that should cost $20 without the tax actually costs you $22.20 with the current tax.

A 500% increase in the tax would raise the tax from 11% to 55% and would mean the box of ammo you currently buy for $22.20 would increase to $31.00. We have already been paying this tax since before most of us were born, and most do not even know it. It is figured into the cost just like the tax on a gallon of gas we pay for everytime we fill up.

If applied to firearms it would hurt a lot more. A rifle that should sell for $500 sells for $555 because of the current tax. With a 500% increase in the tax it would go up to $775

The current 11% tax is used to pay for wildlife restoration and to pay for hunter education classes. The same tax is applied to fishing tackle and supplies as well as guns and ammo.

The 500% increase is supposed to be earmarked to help pay hospital bills of those injured by gunfire.

Don't get me wrong I am not in favor of any further taxes on ammo sales and I do not think this will get anywhere. But it is not nearly as bad as some think.
 
Interesting that that's significantly less than the Paranoia Tax we're paying now, in the form of insanely higher prices for both guns and ammunition. A $22.20 box of ammo going up to $31 sounds good compared to what actually happened to prices after the paranoia set in.
 
The main difference of course being that once the panic dies down, prices will re-adjust downward and firearms and ammunition will have lower prices.

As opposed to a tax, which would be instituted and everyone would have to pay it from now until kingdom come.

To say nothing of the fact that there's no actual value added to arms or ammo from a tax. As things stand, at least the money is going to the ammo makers who might use it to expand their operations, develop new products, pay a dividend to their stockholders, or otherwise use it in some fundamentally beneficial way.
 
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