Feedback on Buffalo Bore 9mm +P+ JHP loads (115, 124, 147gr)

[Thermactor]

Gents,
I'm looking for feedback on Buffalo Bore's lead (not Barnes copper) loads.
Lanbo's Armory has them on closeout for $13.32 a box, which is about 1/2 price. This brings the price to about $0.66/rd + $10 flat rate shipping over $100, which ain't horrible for a specialty load to play with.
Here are the specs I could dredge:
Apparently they use Starline brass, low-flash powder, and (typically) Speer Gold Dot hollow points.
These are the rounds in question

24A/20 - 115gr +P+ ; Rated 1400 FPS, 500 lb-ft
24B/20 - 124gr +P+ ; Rated 1300 FPS, 461 lb-ft
24C/20 - 147gr +P+ ; Rated 1175 FPS, 451 lb-ft

All I could find about these rounds are that they seem to overspeed the Gold Dot past their designed performance envelope; expansion looks .. um.. prolapsed and all kinds of separation happens.
But that's my highly uneducated perspective and I'm looking to get educated.

1) Does anybody here carry these?
2) What are your overall impressions of these rounds?

I've read on some reviews that people have been opening boxes of Buffalo Bore rounds and discovering plain ordinary Hornady or whatever JHP rounds instead of Gold Dots loaded in them, has that been anyone's experience here?

 

[C0untZer0]

I've seen Underwood propel the Gold Dots almost to the point of separation but bottom line is that the Gold Dot didn't come apart. Underwood advertises that velocity for their 147gr +P+ at 1175 - the same as Buffalo Bore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMiI8VcPQ3c

 

[AustinTX]

If you want that sort of ammo, there's also no uncertainty about whether Underwood is using Gold Dots. A few years ago, Buffalo Bore silently stopped using Gold Dots and started using the Montana Gold JHPs in its ammo. Montana Gold bullets are for target use and are horrible (and never intended) for self-defense. Did BB announce that they were making this change? Nope. Photos on the site still showed ammo with Gold Dot bullets. Shady. I don't know if they've gone back to Gold Dots, but if I were interested in this sort of ammo, I wouldn't care as long as Underwood as around. Underwood also has quite narrow velocity spreads from the testing I've seen. It's high-quality stuff.

 

[Thermactor]

Thanks guys.
This forum is really vibrant, so the silence here on Buffalo Bore is quite deafening and I think it really says quite enough by itself.
I'll steer clear.
The Buffalo-Barnes stuff really looks interesting but it's not in the scope of the thread cause it's not on sale, and their... not-quite Gold Dot overdriven JHPs just blow apart in tests.