Felon Restoraton

[svtruth]

For our Virginia members. Lots of news lately about felons getting voting rights restored in VA, do they get 2A rights as well?

 

[Red Wind]

This appears to be the latest.

On August 22, 2016, Governor McAuliffe announced the process he will use moving forward to restore rights to individuals. Individuals seeking restoration of their civil rights are encouraged to contact the Secretary of the Commonwealth’s office.

In any case, a restoration would only pertain to Commonwealth of Virginia felons. Virginia residents who are Federal felons will continue to be denied voting, gun, and serving on a jury, rights.

 

[Frank Ettin]

In any case, a restoration would only pertain to Commonwealth of Virginia felons. Virginia residents who are Federal felons will continue to be denied voting, gun, and serving on a jury, rights.

Also, someone now a resident of Virginia but whose felony conviction was in another State will still need to have his rights restored in the State in which the conviction occurred.

 

[danez71]

This appears to be the latest.

Quote:
On August 22, 2016, Governor McAuliffe announced the process he will use moving forward to restore rights to individuals. Individuals seeking restoration of their civil rights are encouraged to contact the Secretary of the Commonwealth’s office.

In any case, a restoration would only pertain to Commonwealth of Virginia felons. Virginia residents who are Federal felons will continue to be denied voting, gun, and serving on a jury, rights.

Actually, that's not the latest.


On 08-31-2016

http://virginiahouse.gop/wp-content...v.-McAuliffe-motion-to-show-cause-8.31.16.pdf

STATEMENT OF FACTS
I. This Court Held That Governor McAuliffe Unconstitutionally
Suspended the Law When He Restored the Voting Rights of
206,000 Felons.

II. Respondents Have Defied This Court’s Decision and
Restored Once Again the Rights of All Felons Who
Were the Subject of the Court’s Mandamus Order.

There is no substantive difference between the Governor’s current
actions and his three executive orders suspending Article II, Section 1, that
this Court invalidated in its mandamus decision. “Instead of simply
announcing that any felon whose sentence is complete is eligible to vote, the
administration now will mail a notice to that effect to each one. The
administration will review each record, but only to confirm that the individual
has completed the sentence and any supervised release. McAuliffe will not
individually sign the orders or make use of an autopen, but an image of his
signature will be printed on each letter, spokesman Brian Coy said.” Laura
Vozzella, McAuliffe restores voting rights to 13,000 felons, WASH. POST (Aug.
22, 2016), goo.gl/wu2mrw.


The Governor has openly declared his resolve to evade the Court’s
order.

CONCLUSION

The Court should order Respondents to show cause why they should
not be held in contempt for violating the writ of mandamus issued in this case
on July 22, 2016. In the alternative, the Court should enter an order enforcing
its prior judgment and prohibiting Respondents from registering any of the
felons whose rights were purportedly restored by the orders issued, without
application from the felon, under the process announced by the Governor on
August 22.

It looks like the Gov is thumbing his nose at the Supreme Court of Virginia.


This is all over voting rights.

To bad this isn't gun related otherwise it would make an interesting discussion in regards to politicians defy the courts and what happens if/when the police take the politicians side. IOW, If the Gov ignores the Supreme court of Virginia, and the police dont arrest anyone for defying the Courts order.

 

[jmorris]

I guess they want people who are currently in violation of the law able to vote, why not people who have broke them in the past.

What people will do for votes....sure would be nice if they would go after people that don't break the law.

 

[hpluseleven]

I'll be the difficult libertarian...

If a felon is too dangerous to own a gun then they should still be in jail.

If they've paid their debt to society then ALL of their rights should be restored - voting and gun rights. I'm no felon so I'm not sure what else they lose...but that's my premise.

 

[Orcon]

I'll be the difficult libertarian...

If a felon is too dangerous to own a gun then they should still be in jail.

If they've paid their debt to society then ALL of their rights should be restored - voting and gun rights. I'm no felon so I'm not sure what else they lose...but that's my premise.

No, I'll be the libertarian. If you are so prone to folly that you become a felon, you shouldn't be voting. Thank me.

 

[ljnowell]

I'll be the difficult libertarian...



If a felon is too dangerous to own a gun then they should still be in jail.



If they've paid their debt to society then ALL of their rights should be restored - voting and gun rights. I'm no felon so I'm not sure what else they lose...but that's my premise.

I agree. If they are safe enough to wk the streets with my family they deserve the right to self preservation.

Besides, if they wanted a gun for nefarious purposes they would be able to get it anyway.

 

[Frank Ettin]

....If they've paid their debt to society then ALL of their rights should be restored - voting and gun rights. I'm no felon so I'm not sure what else they lose...but that's my premise.

That's very nice, but the question posed by the OP was not about how you think things should be. The OP wanted information about how things actually are.

So if you think things should be different from the way that they are, feel free to get politically active and use the tools our system furnishes to try to make things different. But unless/until you manage to pull that off, we have to live in the real world and understand how things actually are now.

So if you have some valid and verifiable information relevant to the OP's search for information about real life restoration of rights in the Commonwealth of Virginia, please share it with us. But your views on how things ought to be aren't germane to the discussion here.

 

[Kevin5098]

From the Secretary of the Commonwealths's web page:

What about my firearms rights?
The Governor does not have the authority to restore firearms rights. Contact your local circuit court for information about restoration of firearms rights

https://commonwealth.virginia.gov/judicial-system/restoration-of-rights/

 

[danez71]

And according to the info I posted in post #4, he doesn't have the authority to restore their voting rights either.

 

[390ish]

VA requires a court order restoring firearm rights after all other rights are restored by Gov. Then if VA is only state where felony conviction was, person is restored federally.


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[glove]

Gun rights no. Voting rights yes, More votes for H.Clinton. Why else would they do it?

 

[Flechette]

For our Virginia members. Lots of news lately about felons getting voting rights restored in VA, do they get 2A rights as well?

Look up "unalienable".

 

[Frank Ettin]

For our Virginia members. Lots of news lately about felons getting voting rights restored in VA, do they get 2A rights as well?

Look up "unalienable".

Thank you for the peek into your alternate universe. Here, in real life in the real world things work rather differently from how you'd prefer.

The OP asked a question about how things actually work in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Your comment doesn't help answer that question.

 

[Flechette]

Thank you for the peek into your alternate universe. Here, in real life in the real world things work rather differently from how you'd prefer.

The OP asked a question about how things actually work in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Your comment doesn't help answer that question.

Sorry if I offended you. I didn't think my comment was out of line as it is basically what hpluseleven and ljnowel said.

 

[Mauser lover]

I'm confused... Right or wrong, can they vote and get a gun or not?

 

[Frank Ettin]

....I didn't think my comment was out of line as it is basically what hpluseleven and ljnowel said.

Yes, it was essentially what hpluseleven and ljnowel said, but neither of their posts were helpful or on-topic either. I said as much in post 9.

So, if you have some valid and verifiable information relevant to the OP's search for information about real life restoration of rights in the Commonwealth of Virginia, feel free to share it with us.

 

[svtruth]

Thank You All

(and particularly, the Moderator) for a very informative response. It certainly seems 2A rights should be part of the public discussion.

 

[danez71]

I'm confused... Right or wrong, can they vote and get a gun or not?

See post 4.


The Virginia Supreme Court said No.

The Governor says he can restore their voting rights by slightly changing how he'll do it.

The Virginia Supreme Court said 'We said No and still say No to your new method as it substantially no different ... and now tell us why you shouldn't be held in contempt.'

 

[X-Rap]

With the election rapidly approaching who's directive is followed? In either case it has national implications.

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[Mauser lover]

Thank you.