Feral Hog Shot in North Dakota

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I don't spend much time in this part of the forum since my hunting interests are fairly narrow in scope, but I thought some of you might be interested in this.

From www.in-forum.com

I had trouble posting the pic, but if you click the link it's available there.

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ROSS, N.D. – Officials are trying to determine how a boar found its way to northwestern North Dakota, where it was shot and killed by a railroad worker.

The feral hog was killed northwest of Stanley on Dec. 22 by a member of a crew that was working on the railroad track in the area and had encountered the animal earlier in the day. During that incident, fellow crew members chased the tusked animal away when it ran toward Darren Johnson, of Minot, who was facing the other way.

“I don’t know what he’d have done if he got to me,” Johnson said. “It was beastly looking and pretty athletic. It ran like a deer and jumped a three-strand barbed-wire fence like it wasn’t there. The guys finished their shift and went to town to get a rifle.”

Tim DeFoe, of Watford City, a member of the crew, said his first shot did little to the animal that weighed about 300 pounds.

“It didn’t even flinch,” he said. “The second shot hit him in the flank and turned him at about 10 yards.”

Two more shots put the hog down for good, DeFoe said. He took it to Stanley.

“People couldn’t believe it,” he said. “Everybody and their dog was there.”

Randy Kreil, wildlife division chief for the North Dakota Game and Fish Department, said that although feral hogs – wild swine from domestic ancestry – are not usually found in North Dakota, “I don’t think this is a hoax at all.”

“It’s not considered wildlife, that’s for sure,” he said. “One would assume it escaped from some facility.”

Some officials speculate the boar came from Canada.

DeFoe said he is having his hog processed at a butcher shop in Watford City. He plans to mount the tusked head.

Deputy State Veterinarian Beth Carlson said there are no licensed feral hog owners in the state. However, “We do occasionally have people that are unaware what animals require licensing,” she said.

There was a feral hog problem in the Pembina Gorge in northeastern North Dakota about six years ago, after several of the long-tusked animals escaped from a pen in Manitoba and wandered across the border.

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I'd be interested to know more about the kill - shot placement and what caliber took 4 shots to put it down. In that part of the state it could have been anything from a .22 to a 30/06.
 
There are some pretty funny statements in that article.

It ran like a deer and jumped a three-strand barbed-wire fence like it wasn’t there.

Yep, hogs just leap 4 ft in the air all the time for fun.

“People couldn’t believe it,” he said. “Everybody and their dog was there.”

This was more exciting than the two headed grass snake Bobby Joe found last spring.

“It’s not considered wildlife, that’s for sure,” he said. “One would assume it escaped from some facility.”

Must have been one of those grizzled old pig cosmetic testing facilities that nobody's supposed to know about.
 
Yeah, that "jumped a barbed-wire fence" thing had me snickering too.

Maybe it escaped from a bionic pig facility. They should ask him if it made that "chchchchchch" noise when it jumped the fence.


brad cook
 
El Tejon said:
Isn't that a European Boar?

Big difference between a boar and a domesticated pig gone feral.:scrutiny:

What's the difference? I am not being argumentative. Both have been pointed out to me in the field and for the life of me I cannot tell the difference. Apparently, many supposedly diagnostic traits are equivocal.

I had found an article on the differences, but can't find it now. Here is another article that seemed to have some of the same info...

http://texnat.tamu.edu/symposia/feral/feral-7.htm

They are the same species, Sus scrofa, of course, and can readily interbreed. Biologists have some real troubles in recognizing boars v. domestic hogs gone feral. Historically, the morphological traits attributed to both have been vague, overlapping, and even sometimes wrong. As it turns out according to the authors of this study,

The ability to distinguish among the three forms of wild Sus scrofa in the United States has improved over the past 50 years, but still remains somewhat insufficient. Morphological characters in adult animals can enable one to determine if a specimen in question resembles a pure Eurasian wild boar or feral hog, but only hybrids exhibiting a mixture of both wild boar and feral characters can be absolutely identified as such. Based solely on morphological characters, animals which appear to be either pure wild boar or feral hogs could in fact be from the respective parental ends of the hybrid spectrum. Cytological methods of identification are even less reliable than the morphological approach. Genotypic and molecular genetic methods may have promise with regards to being able to resolve identification problems, but both require more work to fully assess the capabilities of these methods.

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High velocity said,
Yep, hogs just leap 4 ft in the air all the time for fun.
Digme said,
Yeah, that "jumped a barbed-wire fence" thing had me snickering too.

Maybe it escaped from a bionic pig facility. They should ask him if it made that "chchchchchch" noise when it jumped the fence.

I don't know what it is that y'all find so funny about the animal jumping a 4 ft barbed wire fence. If it is a European boar, it could likely jump higher.

From http://www.britishwildboar.org.uk/control1.html
Fencing has been used successfully to exclude wild boar from areas where their presence was not desired. The height of the fence is important because if alarmed, a wild boar can clear a five foot fence with ease.

Some varieties of pigs may not jump very high, such as potbellied pigs, but some varieties are quite agile.
 
Here is the pic.

20060106wild-pig.jpg
 
Hey, I believe it could clear 4 feet. That's not very high, if you think about it. A boar like that could easily clear it.
 
I was laughing because the guy said the hog jumped the fence "like it wasn't even there". So why would the hog be jumping then if there was nothing there? Must be for fun. :D
 
Well put, Double Naught Spy!

Most wild hog are nothing more than the farming variety of sus scrofa that has gone feral, without even the European boar strains present. That's okay-- in a generation or three, the hog go utterly, totally wild. They really are wild animals.
 
HighVelocity said:
Must have been one of those grizzled old pig cosmetic testing facilities that nobody's supposed to know about.

I suspect Dr. Lecter may have relocated to ND. I'll send a PM to FBI agent Starling imediately.
 
I am guessing none of you have chased domestic pigs before. They have the option of jumping over or through just about anything they like. I would have put my money on the hog just bulldozing through the fence though. I would imagine a feral would be even more exciting in a man to pig encounter. We've had coyotes try to attack young piglets before and the mama pig takes care of business. Had one three legged yote around for many years, I hear he swore of pork after that little incident in the pig pen.
 
try standing holding a hurdle to block a pissed off, rampaging domestic hog at a county fair livestock show and tell me they can't jump.....
 
Now, them city boys maybe can't tell the difference between a feral hog and a Russian

I grew up on a hog farm. Seen thousands. That's got most or all Euporean in it. It got off a game farm somewhere. Sure isn't a Hamp, Duroc, or Poland China.

Real wild boars are big in the front, small in the back, kinda like a mini buffalo with wiry hair
 
According to the wildlife biologists, domestic hogs which escape captivity and breed in the wild will revert to true feral characteristics within a very few generations.

They will develop the tusks and the shift in body conformation to which redneck2 refers.

Art
 
Art Eatman said:
According to the wildlife biologists, domestic hogs which escape captivity and breed in the wild will revert to true feral characteristics within a very few generations.

They will develop the tusks and the shift in body conformation to which redneck2 refers.

Art


That's remarkable. One of our forum members posted pictures of feral hogs (Matt G?) that I thought looked domesticated. All the ones I've seen around my place look like the one in the article.
 
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