Finally got a Remington 7615P

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I've wanted one of these for a long time, but just not at the $700 new prices for the Police model with the Wilson ghost ring sights. If I ever came across one for under $500, I was going to get it. Well, I got one yesterday. Very low round count, and in excellent condition.

For those not familiar with it, it's a pump action rifle in 223, based on the 870 action. Takes AR mags. Chambered in .223/5.56. 1/9 twist, chrome lined, free floated, 16 1/2" barrell. Wilson Combat ghost ring sights. Picatinny rail. Pump action is very smooth.

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Due to the HEAT WAVE, I plan to take it to the indoor range tomorrow.

Don't know if it would fit, or even if I'd do it, but with this
https://secure.riflestock.com/catalog_page_detail.cfm?recordno=10&Product_CatalogID=2784&ProductNumber=01%2D01%2D22&ProductCode=2&ProductSubCodeID=157&NewProduct=0
it would be compact, about 28". Make for a nice truck, camping, etc, rifle with the right case.



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They take the stock size that fits the smaller 20ga. 870/1100 recievers. Many 870 stocks come with an adapter for the smaller reciever.
Nice gun and a good find for the money.
 
Congrats on the purchase. After you get some range time on it, I would like to ask a few questions though.

I'm not trying to say it's not a great weapon, I'm just curious about this.

What's the main advantage of a pump rifle .223 vs an AR-15? Especially since they seem to be priced similarly to an entry-level AR.
 
As for advantages, one it can be used for hunting in PA and some other states because it's not a self-loader.

How much does it weigh? I could look it up, but listed weights are often inaccurate anyway.
 
They take the stock size that fits the smaller 20ga. 870/1100 recievers. Many 870 stocks come with an adapter for the smaller reciever.

Thanks X-Rap. I appreciate it.

Man, that's a really nice gun. Congrats!

Thanks, jon.

What's the main advantage of a pump rifle .223 vs an AR-15?

I didn't say that it was better than an AR. I said I always wanted one. I own 2 ARs that I'm happy with. :D Which means I have plenty of ammo, and mags for this rifle, without spending any more money. ;) As mentioned, it could make a good truck,camping, etc., rifle. Not to mention the ease of cleaning.....

Hoky smokes!!!!!!did I just buy a manually operated, piston AR?????????

:D :D
 
Great find,....hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine. There's a fella named Krochus that haunts this forum,...look him up. He's a wealth of knowledge on the Rem 7615's.....
 
I've been eyeing these for a little bit myself. My main question has been about their accuracy.... just curious how they shoot, and also how smooth they feed from the mag.
 
I have had one for about 3 years now and really enjoy it for riding around on my family's farm, plenty accurate to get the job done.
 
Problems Resolved With My New 7615P

We recently purchased a Remington 7615P and had a lot of problems with it until we finally figured out the barrel was not seated tight. It was shooting very poor groups, and sometimes it would fail to fire. Finally we figured out that the barrel was loose.

It turns out that the barrel stays tight by rotating the action bar on which the slide rides. That bar screws down onto a bolt in the receiver, and that also is what holds the barrel in place. If you look at the action bar, you'll see that there are holes in it. You can put a metal rod in the holes to rotate and tighten the bar. The hole size on my weapon is 3/16".

Maybe all of you Remington 7615P owners are well aware of this issue. But it gave us fits for several weeks.

Be safe and have fun !!
 
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Accuracy of the Remington 7615P

Here is a target we shot yesterday at an indoor range, 25 yards, with our new Remington 7615P. This is benched with a Leupold VX-11 3-9x40mm scope, 75 grain bullets. We still do not know which weight of bullet is best in this gun, but our sense is that it likes the heavier ones, vs the normal 55 grain bullets.

Here is a target we shot on 9/30/2011. Pretty good 10-round grouping from 25 yards:
http://www.tag160.com/lp160/posts/7615P-target-9-30-2011.htm
 
Congrats on a fine acquisition. I have had one for a month and finally shot it this past Friday. I came across it in a shop and really didn't know what it was. When I saw that it took AR mags I was sold. There had been a thread here about pump rifles so I was immediately intrigued. $349 seemed more than a fair price for it and since I had some money burning a hole in my pocket I came home with it. I believe that it was a police trade-in. It has a few minor scuffs on it that seem to be consistent with having been carried in a cruiser. Mine has the Wilson Combat rear ghost ring sights, front XS sight, but no rail.

The first thing that I did was to replace the butt stock with a Butler Creek steel folding stock. This is one rock-solid unit. The problem was that the 7615P uses the 8700 lightweight receiver (20 guage I believe) and the folding stock was for a full size 8700. I suspected it when I bought it and confirmed it when the fit was way off. It took major alteration with a Dremel and drill press work to the internal aluminum housing, but the stock is on rock solid and I am 100% pleased with the results. Altering a $90 stock as I had to is not for the faint-hearted. That said, the Butler Creek stock is exceptional and well worth the time/risk. It does add weight to the rifle but I wanted something that could make the rifle a bit more protable in terms of length, so the trade-off in weight is well worth it.

The rifle is a blast to shoot. Key to proper function with feeding and ejection is a very positive and strong cycling of the pump. If you baby it or ride it slow your round may hang up. After realizing what was necessary for cycling it wasn't an issue. As to accuracy, I only battle sighted it outdoors at 32 yards in a pretty stiff wind. Overall the Wilson Combat ghost ring sights are going to limit this rifle for any precision work. I'm okay with that as that isn't what this rifle is about for me. Once I got it sighted in five shot two to three inch groups were the norm. Note that with the Wilson Combat sights the set screw for the ghost ring must be loosened enough for the sight to raise up enough up off of the sight mount so that it disengages the grooves otherwise you will be limited to adjustment for windage only.

As to the ghost ring sights, the apperature is large as one would expect. The front XS sight post is also on the wide side. Any level of significant precision out past fifty yards is going to be limited. While I only shot out to 32 yards I would expect my results to hold out to fifty, but out at 100 yards that front post is pretty much covering an eight inch target. I should also mention that I was shooting Federal bulk .223 ammo that I believe was 55 grains. I was also shooting an HK SL8 which is usually a tackdriver but my results were pretty dismal for that rifle with the Federal. When I switched to some Lake City Green tip (which is either 62 or 66 grain, can't recall which at the moment) everything tightened up with the SL8 very nicely. I didn't get back to try the Green Tip in the 7615P but I would have to predict that things would have gotten even better.

I suspect that with scoping the rifle longer range "precision" shooting becomes more viable. The ghost righ sight set-up is going to limit accuracy to a large degree, but for quick sight acquisition it's hard to beat. Even with the ghost ring sight I would feel confident in being able to hit an six inch gong consistently at 100 yards and maybe out beyond that although I can't say for sure as I didn't attempt it. One way or the other this is probably a 100 to 200 yard rifle depending on how it's sighted and it's intended purpose.

The best part of this rifle is that the grin factor is sky-high.
 
I would think they'd be based off the 7600 receiver, I assume they still make them. The 760 was certainly a successful run (my 30'06 is very accurate and totally reliable cycling in as little time as it takes to reacquire the target [just can't be gentle, as noted above]).

J&G Sales advertised police trade-in Remington 7600 carbines in .308 for awhile, and at around $400(!) in their mailers. Haven't seem them in awhile. I have a '56 full-length 760 in .308; took a long time to find.
 
7615P No Longer Produced ?

Early in September 2011 we were told by a Remington employee that Remington no longer makes the 7615P. If that is true, that's really too bad. We purchased a new one in September 2011. Maybe we picked up one of the last new ones out there? Anybody know for sure ??
 
I would think they'd be based off the 7600 receiver,

Correct, and the 7600 is based on the 870. Butt stocks are interchangeable except as noted with the 7615P and a full size 870.

I assume they still make them.

I believe that civilian sales has ceased and wasn't all that long to begin with. There still might be law enforcement sales.
 
I'm not sure which came first the 870 20ga. or the 760 but none of the 760/7600 or their sister semi autos that I have seen have a reciever as large as the standard 12ga.
They might have been released at the same time. It is a very good platform IMO but I think the 7615 for police was doomed from the start by the AR/M16.
 
I'm not sure which came first the 870 20ga. or the 760 but none of the 760/7600 or their sister semi autos that I have seen have a reciever as large as the standard 12ga.

Absolutely true. When I went to fit the Butler Creek folding stock made for an 870 to the 7615P I had to remove probably 15% of the inner contour to get it to fit inside the receiver.
 
Those are the UGLIEST rifles I have EVER seen, and I would NEVER own one........

JUST KIDDING, I want one so freaking BAD :p
 
My main question has been about their accuracy.... just curious how they shoot, and also how smooth they feed from the mag.

Pretty accurate. 1-2MOA. Feed answers coming up.

The rifle is a blast to shoot. Key to proper function with feeding and ejection is a very positive and strong cycling of the pump. If you baby it or ride it slow your round may hang up. After realizing what was necessary for cycling it wasn't an issue.

Same here. I had a couple problems first time out, due to 'limp-pumping'. Since then, no problems. A few hundred rounds with several shooters.

The best part of this rifle is that the grin factor is sky-high.

There was a local forum get together/shootathon back on 9/11/2011. Many made the comment "That was the fun gun of the day".

Jury is still out on wether or not they're still being produced.
 
Remington 7615P Accuracy

A lot of you have had questions about accuracy of the Remington 7615P.

Here are two targets from shooters with average skills:

There first one was shot on 10/8/2011 with 75 grain PPU hollow point ammunition (we wrote "PMU" on the target by mistake). This is a regular 8.5x11 inch piece of paper with a 3-inch Post-it for an aiming point:

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Here is another target, also from 100 yards, by another shooter. This time we used the cheap, American Eagle 55 grain FMJ ammo. Pretty good group with one flyer:

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My 7615 shot like a bolt action varmint rifle

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As to the action size. Its the same width as a 20ga 870 or 7600/7400 but shorter. 30-06 round shown for scale

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