FINALLY I can shoot my Glock 17.5!

vanfunk

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It’s been a journey with my Glock 17 gen 5, I tell ya. 25 years ago, I had a G17, G19, G22, G21 and a G30. I was an enthusiast, but a terrible shot, so I didn’t really care that I couldn’t hit anything with them. Then I got really busy with career and family, sold virtually all of my guns, and left the shooting sports entirely.

After 25 years of a successful but highly stressful career, I decided to step away to have some damn fun for a change. I bought a lot of guns, including gen 5 Glocks - a G17, G20, G21 and a little G42 for pocket carry. With a lot of time and ammo on my hands, I’ve been able to shoot, I don’t know, 5000 rounds a month for a while now and, to my surprise, I’ve actually gotten to be a good shot.

My Glocks, though, have been a struggle. I know they possess great intrinsic accuracy, but for me, their practical accuracy has been severely hindered by that damn trigger. No matter how many rounds and dry fire cycles I’d do, that gravel-mixed-with-lumpy mashed potatoes pull, with a light-year of overtravel, has rendered my practical accuracy with my Glocks to less than half that with just about any other pistol. Nevertheless, I trust them and use my G21 as a nightstand gun and the G42 for pocket carry.

To improve the trigger(s), I polished all the the internals to a high shine, and switched to Ghost connectors. Things improved maybe 10% but not enough. Last week I resolved to try a Timney Alpha trigger in my G17 as it’s purely a range/fun gun and it’s the one I shoot the most by far. It arrived a couple of days ago, so zi hurried to the workshop to install it. Of course, I launched the trigger return spring into low-earth orbit somehow, so I went with the increased power “red” spring (I am glad I did). With everything together, I pulled the trigger. Wow. A crisp, light trigger in a Glock? Yep. 3lbs, 2oz on the gauge. It really feels like a single action trigger with just the barest hint of creep. Overtravel is minimal. Some have criticized the reset but I cannot; the reset on mine is positive, audible and tactile.

I took it to the range today, along with 200 rounds of Browning 124 grain ball. The first rounds were a real joy. MUCH easier to stay on target through the squeeze and follow-through is definitely greatly improved. I know debate rages about these triggers, and perhaps rightly so - some even describe these triggers as patently unsafe. But for me, this is a range gun and I wanted to be able to shoot to its potential. I can finally shoot this damn thing! :)

Coupla magazines at 100 feet:
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Hi LiveLife:

I don’t know, honestly. I was a miserable shot with my old Glocks. I was a miserable shot with this 5th generation gun too until I put the Timney trigger in it. I’d love Timney to come out with an Alpha trigger for the large frame gen 5 guns as my G20 is crying out for one. I don’t think I would want one in my G21 or G42 as they are defensive guns. At least for $150 the Timney has made my G17 the equal of my other polymer 9mms. It won’t hold a candle to the CZ TS2 and S2 Orange, but few guns will outside of custom pieces.
 
It’s been a journey with my Glock 17 gen 5, I tell ya. 25 years ago, I had a G17, G19, G22, G21 and a G30. I was an enthusiast, but a terrible shot, so I didn’t really care that I couldn’t hit anything with them. Then I got really busy with career and family, sold virtually all of my guns, and left the shooting sports entirely.

After 25 years of a successful but highly stressful career, I decided to step away to have some damn fun for a change. I bought a lot of guns, including gen 5 Glocks - a G17, G20, G21 and a little G42 for pocket carry. With a lot of time and ammo on my hands, I’ve been able to shoot, I don’t know, 5000 rounds a month for a while now and, to my surprise, I’ve actually gotten to be a good shot.

My Glocks, though, have been a struggle. I know they possess great intrinsic accuracy, but for me, their practical accuracy has been severely hindered by that damn trigger. No matter how many rounds and dry fire cycles I’d do, that gravel-mixed-with-lumpy mashed potatoes pull, with a light-year of overtravel, has rendered my practical accuracy with my Glocks to less than half that with just about any other pistol. Nevertheless, I trust them and use my G21 as a nightstand gun and the G42 for pocket carry.

To improve the trigger(s), I polished all the the internals to a high shine, and switched to Ghost connectors. Things improved maybe 10% but not enough. Last week I resolved to try a Timney Alpha trigger in my G17 as it’s purely a range/fun gun and it’s the one I shoot the most by far. It arrived a couple of days ago, so zi hurried to the workshop to install it. Of course, I launched the trigger return spring into low-earth orbit somehow, so I went with the increased power “red” spring (I am glad I did). With everything together, I pulled the trigger. Wow. A crisp, light trigger in a Glock? Yep. 3lbs, 2oz on the gauge. It really feels like a single action trigger with just the barest hint of creep. Overtravel is minimal. Some have criticized the reset but I cannot; the reset on mine is positive, audible and tactile.

I took it to the range today, along with 200 rounds of Browning 124 grain ball. The first rounds were a real joy. MUCH easier to stay on target through the squeeze and follow-through is definitely greatly improved. I know debate rages about these triggers, and perhaps rightly so - some even describe these triggers as patently unsafe. But for me, this is a range gun and I wanted to be able to shoot to its potential. I can finally shoot this damn thing! :)

Coupla magazines at 100 feet:
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I can’t even See 25 Yards!!!
 
Haha! I can’t either, man. I’m at the limit of what can be corrected with lenses. I just put the blurry sight (or blurry dot) in the center of the blurry target as best as I can and pull the trigger. That’s kinda why triggers are so important to me! :)
 
Haha! I can’t either, man. I’m at the limit of what can be corrected with lenses. I just put the blurry sight (or blurry dot) in the center of the blurry target as best as I can and pull the trigger. That’s kinda why triggers are so important to me! :)
It’s a good feeing to know you can shoot a Glock after years of not!

Like I said man! we are on the same Gun track! I appreciate your down to earth style! not pretentious at all!!

Cigar + Bourbon time for me
 
I HATED the feel of Glock pistols when I first held one. It was in the mid-1990’s, a gen-whatever Glock 21 .45 ACP. Seriously, it felt and pointed like an L shaped 2x4 was sitting in my hands.

Back in 2007 I swapped agencies, and was issued a gen 3 Glock 19 9mm. I put my nose to the grindstone and learned to shoot the Glock, firing lots of rounds on duty and off. I got to be pretty proficient with it, so I bought a gen 4 Glock 34 for SRT use that morphed into everyday duty. So, outside of a few UC plainclothes assignments where the 19 hid on me better, the 34 was my regular gun.

While great for military, police duty or fast-action competition, IMHO in the majority of hands the Glock isn’t a razors edge accuracy champion. Now there are always wizards out there who can work magic with one, I just haven't seen it done in person. Plus I shoot circles around my Glocks with my 9mm 1911’s, CZ’s and even my SA-35. I think that the combat accuracy you show with yours is just fine for that pistol, nice job. :thumbup:

I am retired now, but I have a few 9mm Glocks (17.3 MOS build, 17.4L, my old duty 19.3, 19.3 MOS build, my duty 34.4, 34.3 build, PR police trade in 22.2 .40 with 9mm conversion, 19X, 43, 43XMOS, 45, 48 and my Dad has my early 17 that came in the Tupperware box) All have a Wolff .5 pound lighter striker spring and reduced power plunger spring, and all but the 19X and 45 had the awful stock trigger shoe replaced with a Vickers Tactical flat shoe. This makes shooting them much nicer.

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My peepers are slowly fading away, too, distance sight isn’t anywhere near what it was 10 years ago. So I put a Primary Arms dot on my Glock 19, 17 and 43X MOS. Man those things are much easier to hit with now. :thumbup:

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Keep it up @vanfunk, I think you are doing great. :thumbup:

Stay safe.
 
Haha! Keep on keepin’ on, brother Mark! I agree, we walk the same path, Grasshopper!

Riomouse, I can see your Glock journey has been extensive! Very impressive collection there and zi am sure you can shoot them all like a house afire. I love the cerakote work on a few of those; did you do that yourself or have it done? Thanks for your support, guys!
 
Haha! Keep on keepin’ on, brother Mark! I agree, we walk the same path, Grasshopper!

Riomouse, I can see your Glock journey has been extensive! Very impressive collection there and zi am sure you can shoot them all like a house afire. I love the cerakote work on a few of those; did you do that yourself or have it done? Thanks for your support, guys!
I bought the 19 and 17 slides from AIM Surplus that were coated; the 19 gen 3 lower I had sprayed Bottomland camo to match the slide, and the 17 was bought already FDE for the desert scheme.

For the gen 3 34 lower/Lone Wolf slide, I asked my FFL to come up with something different that they liked. Its a 5-color forest-style Cerakote that I think turned out pretty neat.

For a hack who had to switch to Hlock from a SIG P228 for work (at that time),I shoot Glocks ok. There are lots and lots and lots of folks who put me to shame when they get out and run their Glocks. :thumbup:

Stay safe.
 
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