Firearm Prices Going Lower

[Blade First]

"Some try to sell the notion that the firearms market is virtually unlimited in the US. That's pure bunkum. Further even when it comes to panics, the American people are getting a touch weary and a touch skeptical.

And the market is unlimited why...exactly? When the population is growing less than threat assessments, why is your "bunkum" accurate?

Your attitude is sheer nonsense. Americans are buying firearms, mostly for personal defense, and in record numbers. Opinions like yours, based on nothing more than ideological hopes and wishes, must rely on anecdotal incidents. And thus, are statistically suspect.

The American People aren't getting weary...we're getting ready. And those of us who are smart, who have studied history, are preparing.

 

[Elkins45]

The guy who already has 95 guns may not feel the need to make it 100, and the guy with 0 will likely stop at 1 or 2. So yeah, I don't think the Obama-level sales will continue.

I went to the National Gun Day show in Louisville on Sunday. You could hear crlckets--it was literally the deadest NGD show I've ever attended. If there was a panic it must have started in the last couple of hours.

 

[Blade First]

"I went to the National Gun Day show in Louisville on Sunday."

So...you have no idea what the show was like on Saturday morning but you can draw a conclusion of the national trend for the weekend based on your attendance on Sunday afternoon?

"If there was a panic it must have started in the last couple of hours."

There is nothing to be done about the willfully ignorant. You are welcome to your mindset but it is not grounded in fact.

 

[Elkins45]

"I went to the National Gun Day show in Louisville on Sunday."

So...you have no idea what the show was like on Saturday morning but you can draw a conclusion of the national trend for the weekend based on your attendance on Sunday afternoon?

"If there was a panic it must have started in the last couple of hours."

There is nothing to be done about the willfully ignorant. You are welcome to your mindset but it is not grounded in fact.

Every single one of the sellers all said Saturday was equally dead.

There is nothing to be done about smug condescension. You are welcome to your paranoia and revolutionary fantasy, but it is not grounded in fact

 

[barnbwt]

Wasn't there about a five day or so "calm before the weird Berzerker storm" after Newtown..? Takes time for guys to beg some cash off of She Who Shall be Obeyed (also to take out credit cards )

TCB

 

[Blade First]

"Every single one of the sellers all said Saturday was equally dead."

That's a fairly large show. You interviewed them all?

"There is nothing to be done about smug condescension."

Well, no...not even yours. Except refuting the combination of smug condescension and bogus claims, which I have done.

"You are welcome to your paranoia and revolutionary fantasy, but it is not grounded in fact"

That's certainly true of your delusions. But then, you're not answering my questions...just regurgitating your opinion based on your tiny anecdotal experience.

The real numbers say you are wrong, but you can't be bothered to try refuting them. I understand...you're going to fail. Simply, you are wrong, and the facts prove that.

We're done here...ramble on if you must.

 

[Elkins45]

Blade First,

How old are you? Were you around during the Clinton years? Do you remember how FEMA was going to round us all up and put us in UN detention camps? History is a funny thing--my personal history is that I'm tired of being told I'm going to need a pallet of 5.56 and a trailer full of MREs so I can fight off the government/neighbors/zombies/UN troops.

There may be a panic as a result of Orlando--I hope not--but I'm not sure who will be panicking. The last group of panickers should be pretty well stocked up by now.

 

[Elkins45]

That's certainly true of your delusions. But then, you're not answering my questions...just regurgitating your opinion based on your tiny anecdotal experience.

The real numbers say you are wrong, but you can't be bothered to try refuting them. I understand...you're going to fail. Simply, you are wrong, and the facts prove that.

What questions?

What real numbers? You have sales numbers from the future? Please share.

 

[jr_roosa]

The two guns up next on my wish list haven't varied by more than $75 on Buds in the last three days. The price has gone down as low as $50 less than Saturday. Not sure what kind of algorithm Buds uses, but now that I've been checking it changes by a few bucks every few hours throughout the day.

Also I was able to buy primers, powder, 308 bullets, and even pistol powder at leisure online in the last few days for prices that aren't far off of what they have been for the last few months.

J.

 

[Speedo66]

I see on www.slickguns.com someone is selling Colt Expanse's for $600 with free shipping. Seems like a hell of a deal, so no panic I can see.

 

[texasgun]

I highly doubt we see a run on AR15s again.... frankly - if you wanted one and didn't buy it over last 4yrs... you probably don't want one. Prices have been rock bottom lately, manufacturers have ramped up capacity to max and even ammunition is back full in stock.

 

[I6turbo]

Some news stations are reporting AR sales jumping, such as this one: http://www.11alive.com/news/local/ar-15-sales-spike-at-metro-atlanta-store/242674963
... but it's too early to say how much traction the antis will get - they are certainly trying, all the way to the top of homeland security, AMA, and the looter-in-chief. There will likely be a buying frenzy of some extent.

 

[giggitygiggity]

I will say that the one good thing, if there is a good thing, that comes from events like Orlando is that the liberals scream gun control instantly and the American people hear a boy crying wolf. It's become second nature to the point that we all know that every time someone shoots the place up, Obuma and his motley crew of mindless wantwits are going to huff and puff and try to get everyone stirred up.

The American people spoke after Sandy Hook sent a clear message that liberals will not play upon tragedies and emotions and take away the 2A... Despite how Obuma's propaganda machine (the media) tries to make it seem like everyone is for gun control, I'd argue that that is far from reality. If the American people want gun control and gun control is a top priority, then why do the Republicans still control the House and Senate? Obuma and Crooked Hillary whining about guns is old news. Most Americans shrug it off as commonplace antics and will turn the channel or flip the page to see how the Kardashians are failing at life.

 

[Acera]

Saturday June 11, 2016 will go down in history as the best day to purchase a firearm in US history.

It is going downhill from here.

A unstoppable movement toward mag limits, removal of constitutional rights by non-judicial processes, limitation and banning of a broad spectrum of firearms,etc. all stated after that date.

 

[Elkins45]

Actually, sometime in 1933 was probably the best time in US history to purchase a firearm. Imagine what a crate of Thompsons and BARs could have been purchased for back then?

 

[General Geoff]

Thompson submachine guns cost around $200 back in 1933. That is close to $4000 in today's money. I imagine an M1918 BAR would cost even more. Combine that with the fact that most Americans were struggling to keep their homes and farms because jobs were scarce and money even scarcer (Great Depression). It was not the best time in history to buy firearms which cost as much as a car at the time.

As much as people whine about the economy these days, we have it far better than folks did in the early 30s.

 

[Elkins45]

Thompson submachine guns cost around $200 back in 1933. That is close to $4000 in today's money. I imagine an M1918 BAR would cost even more. Combine that with the fact that most Americans were struggling to keep their homes and farms because jobs were scarce and money even scarcer (Great Depression). It was not the best time in history to buy firearms which cost as much as a car at the time.

As much as people whine about the economy these days, we have it far better than folks did in the early 30s.

I realize that economically we are much better off today...but if you'll show me where I can buy a new Thompson for $4000 of today's dollars I will trot right out and buy it today.

 

[brewer12345]

Well, the run looks to be starting. PSA is showing sold out of all complete lowers when I checked a few minutes ago. They were showing lots of stuff in stock last week.

 

[ColoradoShooter77]

I built a complete AR-15 from PSA over Memorial Day. Impeccable timing!

Daytona Tactical still has most of their stuff in stock, so the supposed rush is spotty.

 

[Blade First]

Shucks, that can't be; the anecdotes of the experts in this thread say it isn't possible because...well...their opinions are quite firm. Could be they read it on the 'net somewhere.

An anecdote constitutes a datum point, not data; and data do not necessarily constitute fact...anymore than a collection of facts can be construed as a trend, or correlation, if you will. And most certainly, correlation is not necessarily causation. However...

The last seven and a half years are settled history and rich in causation. As such, a clear predictor of the next several months, if not years. Plan accordingly...

 

[Elkins45]

Shucks, that can't be; the anecdotes of the experts in this thread say it isn't possible because...well...their opinions are quite firm. Could be they read it on the 'net somewhere.

An anecdote constitutes a datum point, not data; and data do not necessarily constitute fact...anymore than a collection of facts can be construed as a trend, or correlation, if you will. And most certainly, correlation is not necessarily causation. However...

The last seven and a half years are settled history and rich in causation. As such, a clear predictor of the next several months, if not years. Plan accordingly...

You presuppose that people have unlimited money and unlimited storage space to continue the trend. I think that's an unlikely assumption. I bought five new long guns last year but my safe has no more room for any more, so if I buy a new one it will be because I've sold an old one.

The last few years are an extraordinary exception to the 'normal' pattern of firearm sales. Or hey, maybe this is all just wishful thinking on my part and I'm totally wrong---it won't effect me either way. I learned my lesson back in 1994.

As of last night Bud's still had a whole bunch of <$700 ARs showing as in-stock. I don't plan on buying one of them. I have all I need already.

 

[SunnySlopes]

if you'll show me where I can buy a new Thompson for $4000 of today's dollars I will trot right out and buy it

As an aside, don't we have one of our most conservative presidents in history to thank for that? Reagan outlawed private ownership of any machine gun manufactured after 1986. At National Gun Day in Louisville I remember seeing guns like the S&W 76 with suppressor for around $500. Now they're around $16,000. I always figured Reagan had a machine gun collection he wanted to sell.

 

[ColoradoShooter77]

Cabelas still has all of their 223 ammo in stock, including the sale stuff. I think most people are petered out on the fanatical gun and ammo buying.

I have all the powder, primers, and bullets I'll need for the next 2 years. I'm still buying bullets when I find a good deal, but the rest of the stuff, I'm good to go.

 

[MagnunJoe]

This is actually worse than Sandy Hook. The panic already started. Went 2 LGS and it was packed. People buying "black guns"

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[ny32182]

I talked to the owner of a gun store near me Monday night; as of that time he had plenty of ARs in stock and no uptick in sales.