Elkins45
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I was in Buds retail store this afternoon. The parking lot was only about 1/3 full and there were stacks of $529 DPMS rifles in the floor. Maybe the panic is only in certain areas or among certain populations?
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Aragon
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1.) You need to work on your reading comprehension. See emboldened text above.
2.) Anyone who actually labels themselves as being "smart" would have to be fairly stultified (or naive and arrogant), wouldn't you agree?
3.) Just what are you "getting ready" for?
4.) You have studied history? Where? Can you name say a half dozen titles for us that have most influenced your outlook on the world today? Thanks in advance.
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OldMac
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It certainly could be panic buying for folks in the lifestyle targeted by the islamic terrorists. I have no hard data, but my big gut feeling is that population may have been underserved by gun dealers in the past so it is virgin territory if you will. Maybe that underserved group did not load up in previous panics but now realize the government will show up with guns to protect you several hours after you call for help. The help they bring will be toe tags for the dead and confiscate nail clippers, knives, and guns from the living for your safety. The fact that supplies are not scarce is perfect so nobody gets turned away and discouraged. I welcome all new members to the gun owner population. It makes America safer for all.
Count me as one that does not foresee a major 'panic' like 2013. I would imagine we will see an uptick in sales, but current inventories will probably keep the prices about where they are, at least for the next several weeks. THe market is way too saturated. You would need one of two things to happen.
1. A major segment of the population that was not interested in guns in 2013 suddenly become interested and goes all out on a purchasing binge. While some of our LGBT citizens may see the light, I doubt enough will to cause this to happen.
2. A law actually passes that bans the sale but does not ban ownership of AR15s.
1. A major segment of the population that was not interested in guns in 2013 suddenly become interested and goes all out on a purchasing binge. While some of our LGBT citizens may see the light, I doubt enough will to cause this to happen.
2. A law actually passes that bans the sale but does not ban ownership of AR15s.
Blade First
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Aragon commented/asked:
1.) You need to work on your reading comprehension. See emboldened text above.
Your format is perfect for those who like blenders. Reminds me of a Yogi Berra quote re: a fork in the road.
2.) Anyone who actually labels themselves as being "smart" would have to be fairly stultified (or naive and arrogant), wouldn't you agree?
Stultified?! LOL! Do you think silly insults comprise a valid argument?
3.) Just what are you "getting ready" for?
Why, the coming apocalypse, of course. Didn't you hear?
4.) You have studied history? Where? Can you name say a half dozen titles for us that have most influenced your outlook on the world today? Thanks in advance.
Titles?!? I'm referring to sales histories and the continuing trend of same in the USofA. Actual facts, in other words. Have you read everything in this thread or did you just jump in backwards like a Roman historian?
Don't thank me...I didn't contribute anything to your tangential meandering.
1.) You need to work on your reading comprehension. See emboldened text above.
Your format is perfect for those who like blenders. Reminds me of a Yogi Berra quote re: a fork in the road.
2.) Anyone who actually labels themselves as being "smart" would have to be fairly stultified (or naive and arrogant), wouldn't you agree?
Stultified?! LOL! Do you think silly insults comprise a valid argument?
3.) Just what are you "getting ready" for?
Why, the coming apocalypse, of course. Didn't you hear?
4.) You have studied history? Where? Can you name say a half dozen titles for us that have most influenced your outlook on the world today? Thanks in advance.
Titles?!? I'm referring to sales histories and the continuing trend of same in the USofA. Actual facts, in other words. Have you read everything in this thread or did you just jump in backwards like a Roman historian?
Don't thank me...I didn't contribute anything to your tangential meandering.
Blade First
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" The fact that supplies are not scarce is perfect so nobody gets turned away and discouraged. I welcome all new members to the gun owner population. It makes America safer for all." -- OldMac
Sage advice, sir...but don't get too far out front on the subject of supplies.
Sage advice, sir...but don't get too far out front on the subject of supplies.
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Elkins45
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Buds still has the DPMS Oracle and Colt Expanse in stock for $539 and $645. Brownell's still has all their AR magazines in stock. If there's a panic it's either very spotty or coming slowly.
ColoradoShooter77
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All the powder is still in stock at Mid-South, I don't see any panic right now.
November could be a different story though.
November could be a different story though.
People are buying AR15s but it is selective buying, I was waiting for July to buy a BCM Recce 14 rifle but overnight (6/15/2016) went out of stock everywhere thus I changed my timing, but had to buy lower and upper separately (which actually turned out to be a better deal). Heck, even the standard BCM lowers are all out of stock, I had to buy one with a laser engraving on it...
In fact, I am seriously considering buying another BCM rifle, it may be our last chance to get it in this configuration as black-scary-looking-rifle.
I exchanged emails and spoke with couple of online shops, they are running our of stock on certain desirable models.
In fact, I am seriously considering buying another BCM rifle, it may be our last chance to get it in this configuration as black-scary-looking-rifle.
I exchanged emails and spoke with couple of online shops, they are running our of stock on certain desirable models.
ColoradoShooter77
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Palmetto has been out of uppers and lowers, BCG's for weeks now, since Memorial Day.
I built a rifle over Memorial Day, at a big discount.....talk about timing!
I built a rifle over Memorial Day, at a big discount.....talk about timing!
No they haven't.
ColoradoShooter77
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If you want to buy the $600 uppers, then yeah, those are in stock.
As are $100 complete C158 MPI HPI BCG's
I have also seen uppers for <$600 since Memorial Day. You just don't know they ever were unless you read the emails or check the sight daily
ColoradoShooter77
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I just checked Palmetto, all of the complete lowers are out of stock and have been for awhile. They do have a 14.5" freedom upper in stock for $279.
By and large, their AR-15 stuff has been hit pretty hard during the last few weeks.
By and large, their AR-15 stuff has been hit pretty hard during the last few weeks.
Elkins45
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They still send me emails every day telling me stuff is on sale.
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Oh, sure, its all on "sale." Uhuh.
Prices are climbing, though. A week ago PSA had complete "classic" lowers in stock for 159.99. They sold out and as of last night they had them in stock again for 199.99. Always listed as being a "sale" compared to the "regular" price. I did not pay attention as to whether the standard price changed or just the discount shown from the standard price.
Prices are climbing, though. A week ago PSA had complete "classic" lowers in stock for 159.99. They sold out and as of last night they had them in stock again for 199.99. Always listed as being a "sale" compared to the "regular" price. I did not pay attention as to whether the standard price changed or just the discount shown from the standard price.
ColoradoShooter77
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I got a blem PSA classic lower over Memorial Day for $139 shipped.
jhb
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Im seeing waves of buying. I wouldnt call it a panic, but how could it when the bulk of shooters stocked up the last 2 runs and in between them. There are things disappearing but too early to say how bad it will be this run. Hopefully it wont be enough to allow the flippers to take over.......
PSA, Aero Precision, Daytona Tactical, all have some complete uppers in stock. Not as many, and not all are $600. $209-699 at PSA. Just not a selection that they did have. And as you mentioned. Memorial Day sales, and Fathers Day sales, I'm sure added to this.
I for one, was sitting on the fence for another upper. Was wanting to wait a month or so to pay off my last purchases. But decided on 6/12/16 to jump on one that I wanted.
Blade First
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Well, well...twelve days makes a difference, doesn't it? Got to love the chasm between perception and reality in situations like this.
Back to the OP's question:
No, prices are not going down. They are going up and there are shortages present everywhere; likely to get worse given the rules of supply and demand. The cost of procrastination is sometimes high.
If you "need" it or really want it, best buy low[er]...
Back to the OP's question:
No, prices are not going down. They are going up and there are shortages present everywhere; likely to get worse given the rules of supply and demand. The cost of procrastination is sometimes high.
If you "need" it or really want it, best buy low[er]...
Gun Master
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I agree. Shortages and higher prices are the current thing.
Around election time may be a different story.
For now, supplies are OK at the Wolf River Bottoms.
Buena fortuna !
Around election time may be a different story.
For now, supplies are OK at the Wolf River Bottoms.
Buena fortuna !
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il.bill
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Well, duh!
If you think the gun buying universe of June 22, 2016 is the same as the one that existed on June 10 when this thread was started, your last name would probably be 'Van Winkle'.
It is not the loss of a significant number of human lives to bullets that has such a direct effect on the firearms market, but the noise and posturing of the politicians who once again talk about 'doing something about gun violence'.
I have a part time firearms business in a small rural town. I stock S&W M&P15 Sport II rifles and averaged one sold per month over the last year. The middle of last week my main wholesale distributor had 245 in stock; by 6:00 a.m. this Monday morning they had zero. All the distributors with whom I checked showed none in stock. Same thing for all my Anderson stripped lower receiver suppliers. In just one week, all the Del-ton AR15 rifle kits are also sold out. This is all probably a function of dealers with ready capital buying now while they can in anticipation of increased demand. I sold an M&P15 rifle each of the first three days this week. They all went to people who had been wanting to buy an AR15 but had just not gotten around to it yet. Both I and my customers seem to share the opinion that AR15 prices have bottomed out for the time being and are only heading upward from here.
It looks like we now are entering that part of the pricing cycle that just about everyone knew would come again. The June 10th referenced "firearms buyers' market" may have ended. It does not look like prices will be going lower anytime soon. If you see something you want at a price with which you are comfortable, better not hesitate or that 'good deal' may not last.
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Interesting -
I just received an e-mail advert from Kentucky Gun Co. this morning listing S&W M&P15 Sport II or Ruger AR-556 or Colt Expanse M4 5.56mm AR15 Rifles selling for $599.99 each with free shipping. That is still a decent price for either one of those rifles at this time. By 12:30 p.m. CDST the Colt was sold out, but both the S&W and the Ruger are still in stock. The Taurus PT-111 Millennium G2 9mm Pistol is shown at $209.99 with free shipping.
Maybe aspects of the firearms 'buyers market' are still alive.
I just received an e-mail advert from Kentucky Gun Co. this morning listing S&W M&P15 Sport II or Ruger AR-556 or Colt Expanse M4 5.56mm AR15 Rifles selling for $599.99 each with free shipping. That is still a decent price for either one of those rifles at this time. By 12:30 p.m. CDST the Colt was sold out, but both the S&W and the Ruger are still in stock. The Taurus PT-111 Millennium G2 9mm Pistol is shown at $209.99 with free shipping.
Maybe aspects of the firearms 'buyers market' are still alive.
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