Firearms and the South

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RDak: the local ordinances on guns in cities do tend to be stricter as a rule. At least in North Carolina, Charlotte and Greensboro are somewhat known as being harder places to get pistol permits/chps. No, it does not compare to Chicago or NYC, but neither does the urbanity of any Southern city...
 
While it isn't like Chicago & New York I would not call Atlanta firearms friendly. Georgia has many vague firearms laws that are a carryover from the Jim Crow days. There is hope though. GeorgiaCarry does a good job of taking Atlanta to court every time they break the state pre emption law & lobbying to change the state laws.
 
ClayInTexas has a very good point too.

European city people stayed in cities and country folk went to the west and rural south straight away.

The Scots Irish were big time farmers to one extent or another in the British Isles and they went south...and started pioneering and hunting.

The Germans were prosperous farmers who were not necessarily poor (like us Irish Irish) but were looking for land and religious freedom, both of which we had here. Some stuck around in rural Penn and started making rifles, farming, and all that all-American rural stuff...the Pennsylvania Deutsch (not actual Dutch people from Holland).

These German folks and the Scot Irish folks (both European farmers, both sharing similar religion views) then filled up the Southeast and the Midwest. Likewise the Germans and the Scandinavians, sharing a culture too, filled in the upper midwest.

All these folks, in the South and the Midwest (aka "the North") then grew up with those fine German-American made long rifles.

There is another post above with "Damn Yankees"! There are of course three kind of "Yankees" you know. There are all of us "up here" north of whatever line you want to draw. There are the boys in the blue suits from 1861 - 1865. And then, more pertinent to this discussion, those folks living in the rural and mountainous parts of upper New England. Those are some serious deer hunting, fur trapping, ice fishing, bear skinning, log-cabin building backwoodsman...of a type that popular culture (TV and movies) has placed entirely in the southern US and Appalachia...which extend into Maine. I don't know too much about those folks having never set foot in New England and having no relatives from there. I do know that those of us from the South and Midwest would find the gun culture up there rather familiar to us...even if the accents would strike us as pretty different...those guys up there in the red checkered hunting jackets...they are the original Yankees.

American history is great...I love it!
 
HoosierQ,there are of course 4 kinds of yankees not 3. You left out the "DAMN YANKEE" which is a northerner( from the northern U.S. with northern attitudes) living in the South. We are much more tolerant of any form of yankee other than a Damn Yankee. BTW,Atlanta,Ga. and Orlando,Fla. are northern cities located in southern states.
 
I agree with the Urban vs. Rural argument. I think that one has to consider that people who are satisfied in living in a big city, do so because they crave the security of other people looking out for them and serving their needs, ie. police, city officials, businesses which cater to their every whim. Whereas, people who couldn't stand the claustrophobic cities and government meddling moved out to more secluded areas. With the passage of multiple generations, those that felt different than there forebearers changed locations, so in a way, one could say that people whose families have been living in either a large city or rural location, and like it, have been bred that way. And that leads to the prevailing attitudes in either location.
 
More popular than where, the Midwest where just about any house on more than half an acre of land has a shotgun or rifle or both or the SW where the same can be said about that region and many "city" folks? How 'bout Maine or Michigan or PA where opening season of deer/duck hunting is a school holiday?

The myth that firearms are more popular in the SE US is more propaganda from urban sources trying to put a negative image on the "rough, uncouth, somewhat dangerous" southerners of the 19th and 20th century than anything else.
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Exactly. I don't think there's really a stronger gun culture in the SE than in the SW, rocky mountain states, midwest, central northern and, of course, Alaska.

In my rural Colorado county, guns outnumber people about 8 to 1
 
hoosierq,there are of course 4 kinds of yankees not 3. You left out the "damn yankee" which is a northerner( from the northern u.s. With northern attitudes) living in the south. We are much more tolerant of any form of yankee other than a damn yankee. Btw,atlanta,ga. And orlando,fla. Are northern cities located in southern states.
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+10,000 :p
 
God bless them for that!! (That's why I get very scared when I hear southerners sometimes say they would like to secede again. I would be absolutely HEARTBROKEN if that ever happened.)
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You are one of the few yankees I would be okay with moving to Arkansas after hearing that statement.

the northerners know what I mean, they are called seasons (your own seasons may vary slightly). We have 4 of them. hot, wet, cold and wet.
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here in Arkansas we can pull that off in one day. There is an old saying (probably used everywhere but I can claim it originated here cause this is the internet) "If you don't like the current weather in Arkansas, wait 10 minutes."
 
How is it determined that firearms are more popular in the South? I will bet that New Hampshire has better gun laws than most if not all the southern states. Vermont probably has all of the southern states beaten. All the people I associate with own firearms, are very proficient with them and we can shoot pretty much where and when we want to, barring posted land. I can only think of a couple of people I know who do not own guns.
This is an obvious myth.
I always loved the comment that Yankees can't take the southern summer heat. Try to find a southern car when its 35 degrees below zero up here. No, 40 degrees, no 45 degrees.
You guys want to see some rural areas? Come on up. Better wait till spring tho.
 
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Better wait till spring tho.
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No, better wait 'til the 2 weeks of summer! :neener: How many of you southern boys/girls have shot a skeet match in 2 feet of snow with a wind chill around 0F? Shot my best match so far this season in those conditions. :D The heat in the south, nothing compared to shooting in the winter up here! :p
 
I always loved the comment that Yankees can't take the southern summer heat. Try to find a southern car when its 35 degrees below zero up here. No, 40 degrees, no 45 degrees.
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And all ya'll can't breath right in our playground :neener:

We hunt between Gunnison and Montrose, at the top of Little Cimarron. IIRC, it's ~ 12,000 ft.
 
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How many of you southern boys/girls have shot a skeet match in 2 feet of snow with a wind chill around 0F?
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I went shooting today, current temp is roughly 5 degrees with a wind chill of 0 degrees right now.
 
I don't know, but as a kid in the rural south, cannot remember when there was not a shotgun by the kitchen door and shells in the nearest drawer. My mom was not big on guns, but she never hesitated to let fly at a stray dog chasing her chickens or popping off at a hawk that dared fly over. Nothing messed with those chickens for chow, except her.

Guns were just a way of life with not much thought given to them, everyone seemed to hunt, as a bagged rabbit meant one less chicken going into the frying pan.

Currently live in a very small unincorporated AZ retirement community surrounded by public lands. Many of us old codgers do a lot of recreational rock and paper shooting, sound of gunfire can be heard several times a day and hardly given a thought. Although at the community hall some citified winter snowbirds once made negative comments about all the guns and shooting. With the outraged reaction that provoked, I doubt if they will ever broach the subject again.
 
Even though Maine is as far north as newengland goes be careful about lumpin' us in with the likes of all them types in the big cities like Boston and NYC. Round here IMO the firearms ownership would approach a 10 to 1 ratio. They don't all go out to the back 40 every weekend but they all do know how to use the iron when needed.:)
BTW last week our "cold" weather here was noted as being warmer than that of southern Louisiana :D On that note how many of you "southerners" can say that your firearms and ammo will work when exposed to a blizzard with -10 F temps. I can. Yes they work in hot wet weather also.:neener:
 
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Even though Maine is as far north as newengland goes be careful about lumpin' us in with the likes of all them types in the big cities like Boston and NYC. Round here IMO the firearms ownership would approach a 10 to 1 ratio. They don't all go out to the back 40 every weekend but they all do know how to use the iron when needed.:)
BTW last week our "cold" weather here was noted as being warmer than that of southern Louisiana :D On that note how many of you "southerners" can say that your firearms and ammo will work when exposed to a blizzard with -10 F temps. I can. Yes they work in hot wet weather also.:neener:
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I live in CT, where as I read on internet gun forum's such as this, we are all crazy gun hating atheist liberals in New England. This is not true. We are crazy gun loving agnostic moderates. A very confused lot we are. Although, I do feel bad for folks from Massachusetts. They should move back to America.:evil:

I live ten miles away from the state capitol and 15 minutes from 5 or 6 places that sell handguns so I am pretty sure guns are popular here. NYC and Mass are more or less not representative of most of us up here.

"Article I, Section 15

Every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state."

CT State constitution

On the weather front, it will be a 100 F here in the summer and 0 F in the winter so I guess we get the best of both worlds.
 
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Yep, that's right. No guns up here in New England. They're all down in the south. You BATFE guys hear that? The south. You go bother them.

So tell me, when the south 'rises again' does that mean you guys are going to go away and take your backward cultural and religious norms with you, or are the rest of us going to have to fight you for control of the parts of the country with things like, uh, water?

I'm just asking.
 
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Yep, that's right. No guns up here in New England. They're all down in the south. You BATFE guys hear that? The south. You go bother them.

So tell me, when the south 'rises again' does that mean you guys are going to go away and take your backward cultural and religious norms with you, or are the rest of us going to have to fight you for control of the parts of the country with things like, uh, water?

I'm just asking.
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Uh...yeah...Disregard what I said previously...We have no guns up here...Now go bother the folks in the south Mr. BATFE guy
 
"So tell me, when the south 'rises again' does that mean you guys are going to go away and take your backward cultural and religious norms with you, or are the rest of us going to have to fight you for control of the parts of the country with things like, uh, water?" Nice,real nice. Yankees never change.
 
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