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I knew I would like the series when at the end of the first episode Mal pops that Alliance Agent without ceremony. No cheesy lines, no buildup, just BAM! This is how it should be done...
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Read the comic books (which take place between the end of the show and the movie) - the Fed (Dobson) returns to get revenge, having gotten some reconstructive surgery and a prosthetic eye.

Now, the second time Mal gets the job done right. During the firefight he shoots the guy in the other eye, and then before leaving shoots him again, just to be safe.

So remember - before dumping someone in the desert, make sure they're all the way dead. :p
 
Best Sci-fi

I like firefly quite a bit, (watched all the episodes last weekend) and will see the movie Friday.

As for best sci-fi my votes still goes to B-5.

Both shows make characters more than cut outs and allow them to do things unexpected.

As for tech, firefly is quite purposely vague as to FTL and the size of the "verse" that they are in. There ar no known aliens (well maybe 2 by 2 with hands of blue :) ). The tech varies wildly between the various places in the "verse" for instance core worlds look to be very advanced with tech above ours but still related to what we have now. And the use of Artificial-Gravity of some kind is in use on vehicles and ships. While on the rim the tech may be closer to mid 19th century.

While in B-5 FTL is quite common, and Alien life is common but the humans are a best a mid-tech society. The humans are found by the centori and buy there way into FTL space. The Earth Alliance does not have artificial gravity.

As for the Personal guns of both series the range form Energy weapons - Laser and sonic guns for Firefly, and PPG for B-5 to basic firearms dating from the mid 19th century - Zoe's Mares Leg lever gun and Garibaldi’s .38 special (a smith model 10 is shown)

The Anime Cowboy Bebop as been mentioned as a basis for Firefly, I would also like to add that Outlaw Star has a lot similarities to Firefly.
 
I did not watch "Firefly", but after reading everything that has been stated here and many other websites, I was looking forward to watching "Serenity" either this coming Friday of Saturday.

Normally, my wife and I watch one movie/weekend (at the theater), and since I also wanted to see "A History of Violence", which starts this weekend as well, I wondered whether I may just wait until next weekend for "Serenity". BTW, "Into the Blue" with Jessica Alba, also starts this weekend.

I could rent or buy the "Firefly" DVD set, and watch it over the next few days, and then watch "Serenity" next weekend. Would it be better to watch the "Firefly" series (14 episodes, correct?) and then "Serenity"?

Thanks

Alex
 
I could rent or buy the "Firefly" DVD set, and watch it over the next few days, and then watch "Serenity" next weekend. Would it be better to watch the "Firefly" series (14 episodes, correct?) and then "Serenity"?
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Without a doubt, yes! I think anybody could enjoy Serenity, but I think watching Firefly makes the difference in making Serenity a GREAT movie rather than just a good one.

Those of us who've seen Firefly have a whole 13 hours of backstory going into Serenity. And there's quite a few "in-jokes" in Serenity that will merely have you scratching your head and wondering what the other folks (who watched Firefly) are laughing at.
 
Dvd

When I watched the DVD I ended up watching 4 episodes at a
time and THEN watching an episode every week or so with my
grandson leading up to the movie. If you get the DVD I betcha
cant watch just one episode!
My grandson thinks its the best thing since Farscape.
 
You don't "have" to watch the series, but I'd suggest it.

The movie is really good, but I think it was a better series than it is a movie (that's just because it was a great series).

Better than the last 3 Star Wars for sure! :D
 
Scott Kurtz over at PVP ( http://www.pvponline.com ) says it's so good it actually made him think back to seeing Star Wars the first time in 1977. :eek:

How's that for setting the bar higher? I was born in 1978, but I still find that impressive.
 
As for best sci-fi my votes still goes to B-5.
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B-5 is without a doubt one of the best sci fi shows ever.

It's flavor is somewhat different than Firefly though. Firefly is a story about a group of losers who fought their war and moved on. B-5 is a story about people in the middle of their war who ultimately.....well, I wouldn't want spoil the ending now would I? :D


"Perhaps I have not made myself sufficiently clear. There is no telling when help will come."
G'Kar smiles
"Unless we get ourselves out of here, on our own, we will probably die here."
G'Kar laughs
"So, we must work together."
"No."
"What do you mean 'no'?"
"No."
"You want to live as much as I, hmm?"
"Oh, yes, but… I would much rather see you dead."
"Ah, I see. Well, here I am. Kill me, huh? Kill me!"
"But, you forget the terms of our surrender. The penalty for the killing of any Centauri by any Narn will be the death of five hundred Narns, including the perpatrator's own family! But I don't have to kill you. I don't have to do anything. And I still get to watch you die. I find this most appealing." -- Londo and G'Kar
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Eps 1 & 2 errr I mean 4 & 5 were good but from 6 on they have been crap fests. Pretty to look at but empty inside.

The only good bit was the battle between the Rasta fish-men and the Battledroids. That was way cool. Everything else.....pfffftttt!
 
"Serenity now!" :D

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What set it apart was Joss Whedon's ear for great dialogue
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I hope the previews are not indicative of his writing as a whole, because the lines in the trailer are cheesy as hell. I mean Xena/Buffy cheesy, like something that is only cool when the first number in your age is a 1.

The plot sounds very interesting, but most every line in the trailer just reeks of bad writing.

I guess the only way to find out is to watch it.
 
One of the things many critics are lauding about "Sernity" is also something I loved about the series--it doesn't take itself too seriously. It's not a dark, sober drama set in the future. Nor is it puffed up, dour space opera like the prequels. It's not even a fanboy fantasy like many of the "Star Trek" movies. Whedon kills off key characters and has fun with the survivors. That's the key to the whole thing--having fun. It's an old-school wagon train ride through space.
 
Help! I've got tickets to "Serenity" in 2 hours. My son and I want to watch the Firefly episode where they are dodging reavers flying low...to get ready for the movie. But we can't remember which episode it is...

Anyone know?????
 
Just saw the local premier of the flick.

I was very pleased with it. The spirit of the show remains intact, and the political message comes through much stronger than it did on the show. Happily, it's not a left wing message--it's a LIBERTARIAN message. The Alliance isn't the Empire of "Star Wars." It's much closer to the governing elite of our own world--of all political stripes. The Alliance wants to make people better. And if they don't comply, there are punishments. As Mal says, it's a mistake to try to make people better. It only leads to greater evil. Folks should just be LEFT ALONE. Wow. Not a very typical message from Sillywood.

The plot is somewhat uneven. It's very, very tight in places but there are some TV-like slow spots. Whedon is still trying to find his big screen footing. The film would have benefitted from another edit, I suspect. Lisa Lassek is listed as the editor, and her IMDB sure enough shows she's one of Whedon's people from "Firefly." A better move might have been to team Lassek up with an editor with more big screen, high concept experience. But for a first time effort she did a good job.

The script was great, but you can see the seams. By that I mean you can see all the various episodes of "Firefly" that were planned in Whedon's mind but never got made. The "Mr. Universe" hacker character would have had his own episode or two. The Operative would have chased them around for a season, and the ultimate Big Secret in the film would have taken a year or two to get to.

The cast continues the top-grade job they did on TV. Baldwin and Fillion make the jump to big screen well. Ron Glass also does well, though he doesn't have much screen time. Jewel Staite and Gina Torres don't get that much screen time. Though I suspect if you timed it Baldwin isn't getting any more lines or time than Torres. On the big screen, though Baldwin is totally at home. He has twenty five years of extensive film experience and the difference between his ownership of the screen and the more timid approach from other actors is interesting, though not distracting. Fillion claimed to be trying to channel Harrison Ford through the whole thing, but I'm happy to report he FAILS in that effort. He's not Han Solo--not by a longshot. His character is darker and more scarred than Solo ever was.

Chiwetel Ejiofor does a good job reprising the heartless bounty hunter role of Richard Brooks' Jubal Early from the final episode of Firefly. Only this time he's an unnamed operative from the Alliance. The only quibble I have about the character is that he only has a limited amount of time to flesh out and in the end his development seems rushed. It seems like Whedon had a lot of plans for this character or one close to it.

The action is a bit of a let-down. Whedon uses a lot of trendy quick cuts, though in the end again this is something that the editor needs to watch. There's entirely too much fishtailing and whirling about and too little solid combat. This goes for both the high atmo space battle and the hand-to-hand fights with reavers. Part of the problem may be the fact that they're trying to sell the notion that a 90 lb. girl can kick all kinds of hiney. If you slow that down it doesn't always work well. Still, I think in more experienced hands it could have been done better. Admittedly, doing it right would also have earned them an "R."

The firearms are still cool, though they got a special effects upgrade for the film and a lot of the western elements are replaced with more high-tech autos and lasers. But there's still some cool stuff including mare's laig leverguns, modified trench guns, an AR-18 with weird stuff on it, and some neat sidearms.

All things considered, it's an excellent start. Though the film makes little internal reference to a sequel, the door is not closed and I hope it does well enough to get the Serenity back up into space.
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Just saw it.

I thought it was excellent. I enjoyed it, even more than I though I would. I was a big fan of the series, love the DVDs, and was a little nervous that the movie would not live up to my high expectations.

I thought it was the best movie I've seen in quite some time.

Cosmo, I disagree on the editing. Considering the amount of story that had to be sqeezed in, I did not think that it slowed down that much when neccesary. I do agree that some of the other characters probably had a lot more backstory planned.

There were some shocking moments, but I won't say anything else about that.

Agree, Adam Baldwin was just great. Jayne is one of my favorite characters. He is a scumbag, and there isn't really any issue with it. I like the darkness and intensity, and as a right wing gun fanatic, I absolutely loved the plot concerning the Alliance. I thought the whole cast did well, and with such a large cast, it is understandable that some characters are going to have less to do.

I really liked the space scene, with the jerky quick cuts, much much much better than Star Wars episode III. For one thing I actually cared about the characters, and Serenity has a soul.

I thought the Operative was great. A very different kind of bad guy.
 
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