Scipio Africanus
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You really do have a good Dad. All three are fine guns. If the revolver tickles your fancy take it. Revolvers far out number autos in my safe and I have never been let down by any of them.
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KingMedicine
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.357 all the way. Options with ammo, Limited capacity is bunk. 6 rounds of .357 will do anything you would ever need it to. The browning is a great second option, but i would pass on the Springfield. You can get that anytime, a classic .357 is a rarer treat.
All right. I told him .357, but I also want the Hi-Power.
He said I can have the Hi-Power when I can consistently put 6 rounds in the red inside 25 yard target at 25 yards from that revolver. I don't know how hard that is, but I told him he got himself a deal.
He said I can have the Hi-Power when I can consistently put 6 rounds in the red inside 25 yard target at 25 yards from that revolver. I don't know how hard that is, but I told him he got himself a deal.
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Hi Power. Shoot it , you'll love it.
MedWheeler
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Is he gonna let you take that 25 yard challenge with .38SPL ammo, or full-house Magnum fodder? Either way, that's a great dare he's got in front of you..!
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Good luck
Rail Driver
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I'd go with the 1911 personally. It's been said that the Browning Hi-Power is the 1911, refined... I'd believe it if it came in .45ACP, but anyway 
(this is all assuming the .45 is a 1911 and the 9mm is a hi-power).
If you're a revolver guy, you can't beat a good ol' Smith and Wesson. They're great guns, and a .357 is plenty stout enough for defensive purposes (and a darn good hog gun as well, with a high velocity load and FMJs or jacketed flat points).
(this is all assuming the .45 is a 1911 and the 9mm is a hi-power).If you're a revolver guy, you can't beat a good ol' Smith and Wesson. They're great guns, and a .357 is plenty stout enough for defensive purposes (and a darn good hog gun as well, with a high velocity load and FMJs or jacketed flat points).
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Sounds like your dad has recognized the wisdom of your choice and has given you an opportunity to earn the Browning too. The man is wise. Follow his lead. Practice with that revolver and prove you deserve the Browning.
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357 MAG -
outstanding choice
outstanding choice
Lonestar49
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Very nice of your Dad
45 if you can afford the ammo
9mm, affordable ammo, more bang mileage for your buck/s..
357 Revolver, least amount of moving parts, things to learn/know
OMMV,
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45 if you can afford the ammo
9mm, affordable ammo, more bang mileage for your buck/s..
357 Revolver, least amount of moving parts, things to learn/know
OMMV,
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Cop Bob
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Revolver: more dependable, variety of ammo choices.
Hi Power, cheap plentiful ammo, but not the best choice for self defense
45 in 1911, good caliber, proven platform. not the easiest caliber and platform to master,
+1 for the wheel gun, less to learn, few moving parts, wont jam, wont fail.
45 in 1911 format, great gun, but a learning curve. lot of moving parts that have to be lubricated and held/shot correctly to prevent stovepipe type jams.. just a learning curve.
9mm Browning, High collector value, lowest punch of the bunch as far a ballistics.. also requires familiarization and more maintenance...
A hard learned lesson for one of my close friends...(note to Hi-Power Fans: this could have been any dry, dirty,unmaintained semi auto) He took one through the top of the head, 19days before his retirement.. responded to a robbery in progress, crooks came out shooting, he fired his Hi-Power, it jammed, (not properly lubed and cleaned in a while) he bent down behind his patrol car to clear the jam, crook rounds the bumper and put one in the top of his head.. Lesson here, keep em clean and lubed.. Also, problem solving and management, practice clearing jams, tap n rack. If your gonna own em, ya gotta take care of them. Failure to do so can get costly...
Hi Power, cheap plentiful ammo, but not the best choice for self defense
45 in 1911, good caliber, proven platform. not the easiest caliber and platform to master,
+1 for the wheel gun, less to learn, few moving parts, wont jam, wont fail.
45 in 1911 format, great gun, but a learning curve. lot of moving parts that have to be lubricated and held/shot correctly to prevent stovepipe type jams.. just a learning curve.
9mm Browning, High collector value, lowest punch of the bunch as far a ballistics.. also requires familiarization and more maintenance...
A hard learned lesson for one of my close friends...(note to Hi-Power Fans: this could have been any dry, dirty,unmaintained semi auto) He took one through the top of the head, 19days before his retirement.. responded to a robbery in progress, crooks came out shooting, he fired his Hi-Power, it jammed, (not properly lubed and cleaned in a while) he bent down behind his patrol car to clear the jam, crook rounds the bumper and put one in the top of his head.. Lesson here, keep em clean and lubed.. Also, problem solving and management, practice clearing jams, tap n rack. If your gonna own em, ya gotta take care of them. Failure to do so can get costly...
Smokey in PHX
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For a new shooter the revolver is the best choice, all are good guns.
Took revolver to the range, single action trigger pull is unbelievable. This happens to be 686-5 with 4 inch barrel. Six shot. I am trying to put all 6 bullets in the red zone inside the black area of 25 yard target, using .38 special ammo. I have to do this unsupported, from 25 yards. Any tips on how to do that? I can barely put 1 out of 6 there, if that...
CraigC
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Shoot all three, pick the one you like best and then buy a .22LR that closely replicates the action, size, look, weight and feel to actually learn how to shoot with.
MachIVshooter
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You chose wisely. That would have been my first choice.
In most cases, the 1911 would have been my second, but I'm no fan of Springfield, so I also think you did good in working that deal for the BHP. They're nice guns (once you get rid of the magazine disconnect so you can actually squeeze the trigger)
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Gunny71,
You might find this book interesting (it's free online). Some of the best target shooters you will find use this as their guide: http://www.bullseyepistol.com/amucover.htm
Or you can download it as a PDF if you prefer: http://www.saveourguns.com/Ar_Marks_Un_Pistol_Train_Guide.pdf
A more combat-related view of the matter, as opposed to a competition training view, is linked here: http://shootery.blogspot.com/2011/02/free-shooting-lessons-from-experts.html
Know what you mean about that trigger; it is schweeet! But...just as an additional exercise, learn the double action mode as well.
Why? Well, once you learn to hit well with a double action revolver, no trigger you encounter after that will seem half bad. It's like the fellow who began every day by eating a toad for breakfast. Why? He reasoned that if he did that, nothing that happened the rest of the day would seem all that bad.
You might find this book interesting (it's free online). Some of the best target shooters you will find use this as their guide: http://www.bullseyepistol.com/amucover.htm
Or you can download it as a PDF if you prefer: http://www.saveourguns.com/Ar_Marks_Un_Pistol_Train_Guide.pdf
A more combat-related view of the matter, as opposed to a competition training view, is linked here: http://shootery.blogspot.com/2011/02/free-shooting-lessons-from-experts.html
Know what you mean about that trigger; it is schweeet! But...just as an additional exercise, learn the double action mode as well.
Why? Well, once you learn to hit well with a double action revolver, no trigger you encounter after that will seem half bad. It's like the fellow who began every day by eating a toad for breakfast. Why? He reasoned that if he did that, nothing that happened the rest of the day would seem all that bad.
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Dnaltrop
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Congrats!
Practice, practice, practice... watch for dips and jerks in your trigger pull.
Buy a set of Snap-caps for your gun...spend that time in front of the boob tube dry firing. (before the debate starts, most centerfire pistols can be dry-fired safely, but why risk it? besides, they're handy for simulating failures)
If you're a cheapskate like many of us, keep a set of used brass, and carve some pencil erasers to fit in the primer pocket.
Good luck!!!!
Practice, practice, practice... watch for dips and jerks in your trigger pull.
Buy a set of Snap-caps for your gun...spend that time in front of the boob tube dry firing. (before the debate starts, most centerfire pistols can be dry-fired safely, but why risk it? besides, they're handy for simulating failures)
If you're a cheapskate like many of us, keep a set of used brass, and carve some pencil erasers to fit in the primer pocket.
Good luck!!!!
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Byrd666
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Gunny71
As I'm going through the same learning process myself the best advise I got was to do A LOT of dry firing practice around the house. Remember to make sure it is unloaded even if you just did a second before. Aim at a light switch for instance and keep focusing and pulling the trigger until it is almost a surprise the hammer was engaged. Keep doing this until you can consistently pull the trigger through without having your sights move at all. I do this myself about 50-100 times a day, just whenever I think about, and I gotta tell ya', it helped me out immensely with live fire.
Keep practicing and good shooting
Oh yeah, congrats!
As I'm going through the same learning process myself the best advise I got was to do A LOT of dry firing practice around the house. Remember to make sure it is unloaded even if you just did a second before. Aim at a light switch for instance and keep focusing and pulling the trigger until it is almost a surprise the hammer was engaged. Keep doing this until you can consistently pull the trigger through without having your sights move at all. I do this myself about 50-100 times a day, just whenever I think about, and I gotta tell ya', it helped me out immensely with live fire.
Keep practicing and good shooting
Oh yeah, congrats!
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You did good Gunny. I have a feeling at some point all three will reside at your house. The 686 will last a lifetime and allow you to continue the tradition your father started. Don't let him down.
I would agree with Byrd 666. I would add though, think about how you will store and carry this weapon. Along with dry fire on snap caps look for the most comfortable and easiest to access holster. A good holster is not cheap. I like a Bianchi cross draw with a thumb snap for S&W. Learn to check cylinder for rounds whenever you pick it up or put it away. What you are trying to do is establish muscle memory of the whole process of getting the gun to fire safely. When you get to that point, concentration on aiming point will get easier. There will come a time when the hole you make in the bullseye will almost come as a surprise, eventually you will put six in there almost without effort. The whole process is a lot less complicated than driving a car, the more you want to do it, the more you practice, the easier it gets.
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