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This is my first foray into the NFA forum. Basically, I'm interested in purchasing a suppressor to be used on a .22LR pistol and rifle. There's so much information out there that I'm having a hard time figuring out what my best options are.

I have about $500 to spend (not including the tax stamp). At that price point, I'd like to buy the one that is the most quiet, durable, and relatively easy to clean. My dealer has GemTechs, YHMs, and SWRs in stock, among others.

Any suggestions? I'd like to know strengths and weaknesses of some basic models. Thanks.
 
Osprey Sparrow is by far the easiest to clean.

Blew me away how much lead and carbon build up in the first 1000 rounds.

I like it so much we've got another on the way so my wife and I can shoot steel plates together using .22lr. The extra weight up front and lack of noise really has improved her shooting.

I won't get into arguments about what is quietest, since the bullets hitting the the steel plates is way louder than the suppressed report, a few db's just won't be noticeable for us.
 
.22 LR is a great choice for a first suppressor. I bought a Coastal Gun Passport, primarily because it was in stock and inexpensive. There are plenty of people who will say things like "buy once, cry once" when it comes to NFA, and they are right. However, I was in about $400 including the tax stamp, and the suppressor works perfectly, has very little first round pop on my handguns, and none on my rifles. Bullets hitting paper downrange are louder than the report on my Savage FV-SR shooting subsonic ammunition. Coastal cans often get talked down about on the forums for being "budget cans". Perhaps, but I love mine.

That said, if I had $500 to spend, not including the stamp, I would have probably gotten a Sparrow since it is stainless rather than aluminum, and therefore probably more durable. Plus it is rated for cartridges like the FN 5.7. My can is .22 rimfire only.
 
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My first foray into the suppressor world was based on a lack of a broad information base upon which to make a sound decision....period.

.22 ammo: Hi-Vel, standard ammo SUBSONIC ammo: THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!
And that difference is noticible when shooting.

A short Barrel length will offer better 'suppressing' ability for Hi-Vel, or standard Velocity ammo

LEAD IS DIRTIER THAN A MUD HOLE vs COPPER WASHED OR PLATED .22 AMMO.
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One aspect I wish I had considered is:

Buy a suppressor which is rated for .22 MAG.....PERIOD,or higher if possible! Sure it will cost a bit more but it offers you this additional 22mag option besides long rifle!!!

I wish I had done so from the get go.

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There is a debateable argument on which is better: a Sealed Can or an Can that can be taken-apart for cleaning.

I have the Gemtech Outback 2, a sealed can which can be used for thousands of round before cleaning. If it has to be cleaned I must send it back to Gemtech for that cleaning..............but by that time the rethorical question I ask my self in my mind...willl Gemtech still be around?

I hope so! Aluminun cans can not JUST BE CLEANED, if a cleaner is ammonia based it willl EAT the aluminum.

Gemtech offers a conversion to make my G-2 an owner take-down, cleanable can BUT after a few hundred rounds I've heard the can must be taken-down and cleaned or you'll have a HELLUVA OF TIME GETTING THE BAFFLES OUT TO CLEAN THEM....now who and the heck wants to spend more time cleaning than shooting....I considered sending mine back for the conversion but have since decided to FORGEDDA about the conversion. And the price of the conversion it's horrendous, absolutely horrendous :fire::fire::fire:[/B] I shoulda just bought a different, up graded version suppressor.

Suddenly a $325 can becomes nearly a $700 can and for that kinda dough I coulda bought a better can and rated for more than just the .22 Lr.


.22 Cans are made in Aluminum, stainless and Titanium. or a combination of materials and baffles from Alum-stainless-Tit-Iconel.


My next .22 can will be rated .17, 22mag, 22 Lr, even tho I have no use for 17 but I have a ton of 22Lr/.22 mag ammoo.

Construction could be all stainless or Titanium or a combination and SEALED. Yup I'll spend more, but I'll be shooting more rather than having to spend time taking it apart and cleaninging. Where as with my new SEALED I can just end up soaking the can while I sleep...no day light shooting time wasted cleaning.

So give up your extra barley-pops, quit eating at BK, throw the smokes away, throw the mobile phone in the lake, tell the wife you can only go out for dinner once for the next few months, sell the dam cat, put the dog on a diet, walk to work or car pool, delete a few cable options, push the ice-cream away, delay the fishing trip, don't send the kids to camp ANY CAMP...:what::what::what:

NO MATTER WHAT DON'T BUY AN ALUMINUM CAN
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Threading cost on the barrel: range for $60 upto nearly twice that amount.
Locally the gun smiths in my area wanted $100+ plus for threading a barrel.

While on GB I found barrel threading services from $50 to $65 and inspite of shippin/ins cost ..... well, I've sent out 3 barrels so far!

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You're gonna love a suppressor.....:D:D:D

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By the way there is a MOD here who has serious connections to a manufacturer and offered a reduce price for THR members. AND WOULDN'T YA FREAKING KNOW IT I WAS GUN RICH CASH POOR AT THE TIME... THE .22 SUPPRESSOR I WAS LOOKING AT -AND DROOLING OVER- WAS OFFERED in the THR OFFERING.


I wish he'd offer it again...........it would be :cool:
 
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I just went through this at the end of May, and can totally relate! I spent countless hours online, talking to people and researching my first .22 can. Here are a few things I figured out. First, it's kind of like buying a pistol, or car, if you ask 100 people which one is best, you will likely get 100 opinions. Second, like the others have mentioned, if the one you really want is more than you had planned on spending, wait a few weeks and save up for it. You are looking at $200 and 6 months wait time, that's a lot of time to second guess your decision, and wish you hadn't compromised. I am speaking from personal experience on this, I had planned on buying an AAC Element 2, went to my gun dealer where the guy talked me into buying a Gemtech Outback 2d that he had in stock. I think the Gemtech will be a great can and it was a bit cheaper, but it wasnt exactly what I had planned on buying. Like Mike said, and I completely agree, go ahead and buy one that is magnum rated even if you never plan on shooting mag rounds out of it, at least you know you could! I guess the bottom line is this, it is a lot of extra paperwork, time, and money to purchase a can and at the end of the day if you don't like it, you can't just trade it in without going through it all again.
 
The Sparrow is the easiest 22 can when it comes to cleaning it

I would recommend any of the Liberty rimfire cans

The Essence is my favorite and I have sold about 6 of them so far on a Savage bolt gun it rivals my TM Operative on a 77/22 thats pretty damn good for a thread on can

The Kodiak TL has a good following also and they have recorded several times meter results under 115dB on a Ruger MkII pistol with CCI standard velocity
 
The Sparrow is the easiest 22 can when it comes to cleaning it

I would recommend any of the Liberty rimfire cans

The Essence is my favorite and I have sold about 6 of them so far on a Savage bolt gun it rivals my TM Operative on a 77/22 thats pretty damn good for a thread on can

The Kodiak TL has a good following also and they have recorded several times meter results under 115dB on a Ruger MkII pistol with CCI standard velocity
 
Thanks for the replies. I've got a month before I order or purchase, so keep the suggestions coming.
 
I don't know if you can get hold of ASE Utra where you are. I have one on my R55 Benchmark and it is really quiet. All-steel with removable baffles (a bit of a fiddle to get back in but it is worth it as you can clean the baffles individually).

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And here is a CT scan showing how the baffles are angled in the can:

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I just made the same decision and decided to go with the Silencerco Sparrow SS. I actually had intended to go with the SWR Spectre II because its cheaper than the Sparrow, but then I found the Sparrow at a local dealer for $399 (normal price is $499 for the Sparrow and $399 for the Spectre).

I started out looking at Thompson machine and huntertown arms suppressors, but then decided I should probably upgrade to designs with steel baffles. Both the Sparrow and the Spectre are steel designs, which I think is the way to go for an Item that you are basically buying for life. Also both can be disassembled, which in my mind is alsoa crucial feature for a tool that I'll hopefully have forever.
 
I have one of those 22L coming in for a customer he wants to try it out

On his MkII the new Outback, Essence, Spectre all sounded pretty good tone and reduction wise

He has like 12 22 cans along with centerfire cans but he wants to find the holy grail of 22 cans
 
He has like 12 22 cans along with centerfire cans but he wants to find the holy grail of 22 cans

He should read the last words of Joseph of Aramathia. :D

Seriously, though, let me know what he thinks. Twelve cans for one caliber is impressive.
 
Ill let you know he keeps buying them lol

Hell walk in a store or come to me and say hey i want this or that and throw money down for right there lol

Not to toot my own horn and name drop Liberty but the Essence to me is the best 22 can ive heard
 
I have a couple of SWR Spectre II's right now and they have less first round pop than the Sparrow, about 2 weeks ago I shot the SWR next to a Sparrow, on Walther P22's they were nearly identical but on a bolt gun there was a noticeable difference when shooting super sonic ammo, the done with the Sprectre was lower.

I also have cans from The Mid States Armory and Thompson Machine right now.
 
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