Fixing to load 270.

[JackSprat]

I just got an old 110 in 270 the otherday,and I will be loading for it..I bought 130 gr Interlocks,and ordered an old set of Ashurst dies from Ebay..I am in the process of buying some brass from a member on here...I have 3 powders on hand that are listed in Hodgon data with this bullet,.H414..H100V...IMR4064..The 4064 seems to be the most popular from what I've googled,but I'm not sure it's the best choice of the 3 I have..I would think the 4064 might be a hair fast,but I may be wrong..What are your opinions on this situation?...Thanks

 

[RedLeg105]

IMO, get a pound, or two, of IMR 4350. It's a great powder for .270 Win. and can be used for 110 grain up to 150 grain bullets.

See: www.hodgdonreloading.com for recipes.

 

[JackSprat]

IMO, get a pound, or two, of IMR 4350. It's a great powder for .270 Win. and can be used for 110 grain up to 150 grain bullets.

See: www.hodgdonreloading.com for recipes.

The data looks good for the 4350,but I want to try something that I have plenty on hand for now.I probably will pick up some 4350 when I get the chance.

 

[CarJunkieLS1]

I have a friend who swears by H 100 V in his .270. My .270 didn't like it at all but mine did well with 4064 but LOVES IMR 4831. Of the 3 you listed my bet is IMR 4064 being the powder that does well.

 

[pert near]

Of the 3 powders, I agree that 4064 will probably give the best results. As surmised, it is a bit "fast" for max efficiency with 130 gr bullets. If that is what you got & it shoots well I'm sure the deer won't mind!

Good shooting to you with such a fantastic cartridge!

 

[Captcurt]

IMO, get a pound, or two, of IMR 4350. It's a great powder for .270 Win. and can be used for 110 grain up to 150 grain bullets.

See: www.hodgdonreloading.com for recipes.

I am with Red on this. I have shot the 270 for 40 years and IMR-4350 is my goto powder. 130gr Speer over 4350 is a deer killing combo and accurate too..

You might need to set the bullets a little deeper with the Savage. I load for a friend who shoots a 111 and the gun has a short throat. I had to set the bullets deeper to keep them off of the lands. Don't remember how much but it was different than my Ruger 77.

 

[RedLeg105]

According to a couple of burn rate charts that I just looked up, H-414 is just a little faster than IMR-4350. So, if that’s what you have, it would be my choice of the three powders that you listed.

Good luck with your .270. I’ve owned my .270 since 1976, and have never even thought about trading it for any other caliber.

 

[JackSprat]

According to a couple of burn rate charts that I just looked up, H-414 is just a little faster than IMR-4350. So, if that’s what you have, it would be my choice of the three powders that you listed.

Good luck with your .270. I’ve owned my .270 since 1976, and have never even thought about trading it for any other caliber.

I've had a few 270s in my day,and I have killed more deer with them than any other caliber,and I have pulled off a few long shots when I used to hunt up on the flats..Around here the 270,and 30-06 is the most common deer rounds,even though they are overkill for whitetail most of the time..It's better to have too much than not enough.

 

[Grumulkin]

For 130 grain bullets in 270 Winchester, I've had good success with IMR 8208 XBR and with 150 grain bullets H4831SC.

 

[Tony k]

I was getting pressure signs at mid charges when I tried 100v in my Savage 111 .270 with 130gr bullets. I never got a group better than 1.5". It killed two deer , a bear ,and an elk though.

I've tried 4064. I don't remember how well it grouped, but I remember it having lighter felt recoil than the 100v with no pressure issues.

 

[stringnut]

Being on the fast side 4064 may not give the highest velocity. Who cares! If it is what you have and it gives the accuracy you want use it. A hundred fps second slower would not make enough difference in killing power or trajectory to be noticed at any normal distance.

 

[sparrow75]

I use the H4831sc for my powder and I load only Nosler Partition 150gr Bullets.
Most accurate load I found giving me 1" moa at 100yds if I take shots of a good rest that is.
54 grains of this powder and AOL press to 3.320" . I use standard large rifle primers. CCI #200 works ok
Best factory shooting box of shell,s that shoot good in her is the 150gr. Remington Cor-Lock. Good luck reloading.

 

[Grumulkin]

A 200 yard group shot with my Encore and I also use Remington Core-Lokts. They're cheap bullets but kill well and are accurate.



Shot with a Blaser R 93; it didn't like 130 grain bullets. And the powder should read H4831SC; in my enthusiasm I neglected to include the 1.

 

[41 Mag]

Been loading for our 270 since the early 80s. I've used numerous powders and bullets from all of the major brands and found good loads with a lot of them. This is a pretty forgiving caliber to load for. I do however think that a majority of folks loading for it try to go the Jack O'Connor route an push the envelope.

I have loaded ours from top end to reduced loads and found good ones on both ends of the spectrum. As for burn rates, well one of my most used loads with 130gr bullets uses IMR-3031, which for this size case just don't get picked very often. The load only runs about 2750 to 2800fps but is 3/4" accurate all day/year long out to 200yds.

Bottom line here is don't get caught up in the velocity race. Work on a load that is accurate and stable throughout the year. When you start to push things you'll find one month your punching fine size groups and a month later and a 10-20 degree or more temp change you blowing primers or scattering bullets like buck shot.

There are some great powders out now which help with the temp thing, but the closer to the top you get the more iffy they become over the long haul.

Good luck, be safe and enjoy.

 

[GooseGestapo]

Use the H414. It's so close to the IMR4350, you won't notice the difference.
I've used 54.0gr under a Sierra 130. Yields 3,000-3,050fps (22"-24"bbl).
Do start 5% below before you go to 54.0 as this was used in a Mod 70 push-feed and an Interarms MkX Mauser. Both have generous throats. Your Savage will likely have a shorter throat and show pressure signs at a lower charge.

4064 will likely give good accuracy, but will top out at 2,800-2,850fps.
IMO, that's not what you get a .270 for!
When you buy more powder, get MagPro. My Remington M700 and MkX both with 24"bbl's get 3,200fps with a 130gr bullet. That's what the .270 is about...
.300mag velocities with .300Savage recoil.

 

[JackSprat]

I went ahead and bought a pound of IMR 4350,and really like it .I am getting good accuracy,and I assume pretty good velocity with 55 gr wich is what Hodgdon list as max,but I could have went higher according to the Lyman manual..I showed no signs of pressure..I got the gun from a friend,and he had never shot it. The trigger was way to heavy for my taste,so I took the stock off adjust it lighter I noticed the action screws were a little loose,and one took a smaller allen wrench,and when I put it back together and tightened them it locked my bolt up.The action screw that goes thru the trigger gaurd was a hair long,so I trimmed off about a 16th inch from it,and solved the problem..I don't know if someones had a different stock on it in the past,or they just lost a screw,and replaced it with one that was a hair long.The gun is not beat up but it has some of the clear varnish worn away on the tip of the forend,and at the butt of the stock down by the recoil pad..I am thinking about refinishishing it if I get bored enough this winter.

 

[Slamfire]

I tried IMR 4064 in the 270 Win, velocites were not that different from what I got with IMR 4350 with 130 grain bullets, which is in the range of 2800 to 2900 fps. When ever I pushed a 130 near 3000 fps groups were horrible. They just got large, something bad was going on. I could never push a 130 in the 270 Win as fast as I could in a 30-06, nor for that fact, could I push a 150 in the 270 Win as fast as I could in the 30-06. At some velocity level, the groups expanded.

For decades I read glowing articles by gun writers who declared the superiority of the 270 Win because you could push a 130 at 3000 fps in the 270 Win. To these characters, 3000 fps was a mystical velocity threshold, like enlightenment, like entering the land of OZ: magic occurred at 3000 fps. Cartridges that pushed bullets less than 3000 fps were beneath contempt. I think they liked 3000 because it starts with the number 3, is a whole number, and triangles have three sides. People have weird relationships with numbers, especially numbers that provide symmetries. I don't know what they would have done with the metric equivalent: 914 meters per second. Maybe they would been excited at bullets that moved 1000 meters per second. Maybe they would have chased a string dragged across the floor, like a cat. Who knows? But whatever fascination these guys had with the number 3, I was unable to get decent accuracy and case life with loads at 3000 fps.

I know others have had good luck with IMR 4064, these are the velocities I got. I finally got frustrated with my load and shot them all up in a 20 round group that was three and a half inches at 100 yards. Yuck. I have proved to my satisfaction that my FN Deluxe is not a target rifle and at best will shoot under two inches.

FN Deluxe 24" Barrel installed new Wolff 22 pound mainspring

130 gr Federal Fusion (pulled) 49.0 grs IMR 4064 wtd lot 2449R Win cases Fed210S OAL 3.225"
8 Feb 2012 T = 50 °F

Ave Vel = 2859
Std Dev = 16
ES = 34
High = 2878
Low = 2844
N = 5


130 gr Federal Fusion (pulled) 49.0 grs IMR 4064 wtd lot 2449R Win cases Fed210S OAL 3.225"
26 Dec 2013 T = 45 °F

Ave Vel = 2831
Std Dev = 26
ES = 63
High = 2865
Low = 2802
N = 5

So-so accuracy

130 gr Nosler 49.0 grs IMR 4064 R 4.6 W/W cases Fed210M OAL 3.25"
13 Aug 2014 T = 84 °F

Ave Vel = 2964
Std Dev = 33
ES = 123
High = 3009
Low = 2886
N = 20

Group size: 3.25" X 3.5"

I had a much better experience with any of the 4350's, either IMR 4350, AA4350 or H 4350. IMR 4831 was the velocity champ, I could push the bullets faster with IMR 4831 than any 4350 or 4064 powder I tried.

 

[GooseGestapo]

The reason you can't push a 130 as fast from a .270 as a .30/06 is physics. The .30/06 has a greater expansion ratio, and a larger surface to be pushed against by the powder. The benefit of the .270 is that the lighter bullet has the ballistic coefficient of a much heavier bullet from the .30/06, without pursuant recoil.

I've always preferred the '06 because every thing equal, the '06 hits harder due to larger frontal surface area. Or, like Jack said (O'Connor), elk tend to flinch a little more when hit by an '06 (vs. .270). But then again, for thick woods hunting, the .35Rem loaded to potential with 200gr Corlokts or Sierra ProHunter are unequaled. BTDT. .358win identical.

I'm old enough to remember reading O'Connor in OutdoorLife as a teen. He's unsurpassed. Although John Barsness and Rick Jamison come close.

 

[Charliefrank]

I've been using the same load ever since I worked it up in the 80's. H4831 under a 130gr Nosler ballistic tip. I get around 3000fps and 1.5" groups at 100 yards from my Winchester mod 70 featherweight. I've never experienced any problems due to temperature. The only downside is it doesn't meter worth a crap. Also I've never had to shoot a white tail more than once.