Florida gun show etiquette

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  1. paintballdude902

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    Just got back stateside and i plan to offload a 3-4 guns at a coming gun show to finance a a few new pistols and rifles.

    im from NC and this will be my first time trying to sell at a gun show in florida, do i need to have them cased while walking into the facility? (open carry is generally illegal here unless you are hunting or fishing) i know the cops are going to check them at the door to make sure they are unloaded but i dont want to cause a scene walking in with a few uncased guns.
     
  2. Sarge

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    Well if Fla is anything like gun shows I've been to in a dozen other states - it doesn't make any difference.
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  3. dogmush

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    No. I've walked several Suncoast Gunshows with a rifle slung and a sign on it. As long as it's checked empty you are in business.

    I will say that the last one I was at (in Tampa) they had a sign up that limited the number of guns you could sell at a time without a table. I think it was 3, but there was a limit on what you could wander around with.
     
  4. Midwest

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    I thought seller and buyer have to live in the same state as where the gun show takes place in order to be sell there privately unless they go though an FFL.

    For instance, I don't think someone from Ohio can come to a KY gun show and sell their firearms here without going through an FFL because of the law barring interstate sales.

    Seller and buyer have to both be residents and the sale must take place in the same state as seller and buyer. Unless going through an FFL, unless the 1968 GCA was changed recently.

    I know you can buy long guns from other states, but only through an FFL.
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  5. paintballdude902

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    midwest- im military stationed in FL so it doesnt really matter for me.
     
  6. Red Wind

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    True. But Midwest didn't know that when he posted.
     
  7. redneck2

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    So, you can be a resident of NC, but if you're stationed in Fla you can sell a firearm FTF?

    Did not know that.
     
  8. Sunray

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    Show rules etc should be on the assorted advertising or available by phone. Whoever answers the number for booking a table should be able to tell you.
     
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    Permanent Change of Station (PCS) orders make the service members legally a resident of the state he is stationed in, and the state you're living in should your post be near a state border.

    As long as the service member has a copy of their PCS orders to prove to you he is, in fact, stationed there he can legally buy and sell like a normal resident.
     
  10. George Dickel

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    Unless things have changed a whole lot since I retired, PCS orders do not make you a resident of that state. The state you have listed in your personnel records as your Home of Record is the state where you are a legal resident.
     
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    Since there is a legal angle to this, perhaps it should be moved there?
     
  12. dogmush

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    Key words are For the purposes of buying and selling firearms an AD service member is a resident of both the state where their Home of Record is and the state they are stationed in. There's some other stuff as well, but it doesn't apply to THR.
     
  13. denton

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    There is a big difference between domicile and residence. You can only have one domicile, but can have multiple residences. You can move about from residence to residence, and in each state that you have residence, you can buy and sell face to face.
     
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    Handguns are always illegal across state lines without an FFL.

    Aren't rifles allowed sometimes in southern states to be sold FTF in a different state?
    If so, the lower profile of a bolt-action could improve the odds compared to an FAL, AR.
     
  15. Midwest

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    No

    You CAN physically travel to another state and buy a long gun in that state from an FFL and take the gun home with you. Assuming the practice is legal in both states.

    You cannot physically travel to another state and buy a long gun in that state from an private individual (non FFL) and take the gun home. It has to go through an FFL.
    It's Federal Law.


    You cannot physically travel to another state and buy a handgun in that state from either an private individual or an FFL and take the gun home. Both are illegal.
    You can only buy a handgun from an FFL in your state of residence.

    If state law allows it you can buy a handgun in an private FTF sale if the handgun and buyer are both from the same state and in the same state of residence. You can buy FTF in KY if both buyer and seller are KY residents. It's Federal Law.


    Exceptions are

    Inheritance
    Antique
    You have an FFL
    You have a C&R FFL and the gun is a C&R
    Go through an FFL in your state of residence.

    Whew!
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  16. Sav .250

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    State Police and Wildlife officers are on hand at shows. You can`t get into the bldg. with out their inspection of your weapon(s.)
    They secure the weapon with a plastic tie.
     
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    An out of state resident cannot buy a handgun at an FFL in another state, however if you have your orders showing you are stationed there you can, as an out of stater, buy a handgun there, why would private sales be any different?

    And if you really want to crunch your noodle, a Federal judge had ruled that the ban on selling handguns to out of state folks (as an FFL) is unconstitutional. :D
     
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    Section 921(b) of the GCA provides that a member of the Armed Forces on active duty is a resident of the State in which his permanent duty station is located. The purchaser's official orders showing that his or her permanent duty station is within the State where the licensed premises are located suffice to establish the purchaser's residence for GCA purposes. In combination with a military identification card, such orders will satisfy the Brady Act's requirement for an identification document, even though the purchaser may actually reside in a home that is not located on the military base.

    Licensees should note that for purposes of the GCA, military personnel may in some cases have two States of residence. For example, a member of the Armed Forces whose permanent duty station is Fort Benning, Georgia, may actually reside in a home in Alabama. For GCA purposes, that individual is a resident of Georgia when he or she is in Georgia and a resident of Alabama when he or she is in Alabama. If such an individual wishes to purchase a firearm in Alabama, he or she must of course comply with the identification document requirement in the same way as any other Alabama resident.
     
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    ^Excellent,cogent explanation of the military exceptions. Thank you.
     
  20. herkyguy

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    ahhhh, Florida. I dinstinctly recall taking a leak in the restroom at a gunshow. The guy next to me had an AK over his shoulder. And on my other side, a guy with an AR over his shoulder. Got a little crowded on that row of urinals.
     
  21. SSN Vet

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    I agree, PCS doesn't make you a resident... actually, The Soldier's and Sailor's Civil Relief Act protects you from being forced to submit to the requirements of residents. i.e. don't have to register your car in state, don't have to get a new drivers license for that state, don't have to meet vehicle inspection for that state, don't have to pay municipal or state taxes for that state.

    You can pick any of the 50 states as your home of record, and you then comply with that states requirements, and are taxed iaw. that states tax code.
     
  22. Redlg155

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    As to Fl gun shows, I often trade and sell. Just don't sit in the concession area without something to eat in front of you while have weapons for sale.
     
  23. The Lone Haranguer

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    It's a gun show. Nobody will think twice about seeing your uncased long guns as you carry them in, other than to ask you what you've got. :D You will be required to check them in, unload and show clear and get a zip tie put through your action.
     
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