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Been wanting want of these for awhile now, just curious if its worth that mountain of a price? i mean you can go KIMBER < OR COLT with those dollars.
 
I certainly enjoy mine, mainly for the caliber, not the actual pistol. It is a tremendous amount of fun to plink with, and also makes a wonderful pack around the woods gun for my purposes.

I also have to qualify my opinions based on the fact that I already have plenty of other pistol calibers, and another .45 just didn't seem as exciting.
 
It's interesting and different. I too have lots of stuff for carry and real use. I don't think I'd carry this. Not because of the caliber, mainly just the size.

Just depends on what you want it for. It's a fun toy.

Can't use in IPSC or IDPA, not really a carry gun.

Very accurate, very fun to shoot, so so trigger.

I would buy another one but just be realistic about what they are.
 
Will you be able to find ammo for it, in a year or two. I don't think the caliber will last long. orchidhunter
 
Will you be able to find ammo for it, in a year or two. I don't think the caliber will last long.

Not sure where you get that really. 2 new commerical loaders have said they will begin to sell it in 2009.

FN is introducing a bolt action for it in 2009.

There is one AR upper out now, another in the works.

That, and it's the cheapest round you can reload.

I heard the same thing when I bought a Delta Elite 10mm, a .357 Sig, a 41 Mag revolver etc, etc.
 
I have been tempted several times to buy a 5.7. I just couldn't part with the $1k for a niche piece.

But I haven't ruled it out totally. FWIW I wouldn't carry it since I have several other carry guns. But it would be fun at the range from what I hear.
 
On a hypothetical note: Would the 5-7 have potentially fallen under the previouls AWB?

Keep that one in mind when you are thinking about getting one in the near future.
 
just curious if its worth that mountain of a price?

That's hard to say. The gun itself is very well made, with some neat features. IMO the only weakness or fault is in the trigger, which is a bit "grunchy"* :uhoh:

The pistol is accurate, the sights OK, recoil is minimal...all this makes for a very fun range gun. I really like this pistol and am glad I found one at a pretty reasonable price.

Interestingly, 5.7x28 ammo is about the only ammo that hasn't risen in price as most all others have. I still see it for sale for the same $20/box as it was a few years ago.

I've seen them as high as $1050 but I'd look around and be patient to see if I could find one in the $800 range. I think they are out there at that price...









* a word describing a springy, twangy, mushy, grainy trigger pull. :rolleyes:
 
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My lady really wants one of these, she became fond of the calliber using the PS90. She can get them at wholesale, not retail, pretty reasonable. Have been wondering this same thing myself.
 
I've seen these blow up out the composite frame and destroy the shooter's hand. Iv'e also failed to see other small diameter rounds do the same ballistics. If I were a buyer, I'd wait until someone offered a reliable frame in a proven receiver that doesn't maim folks. If at that time the round
is still around and thriving, why question it? But I would wait until then.

Wait until it stops maiming folks before you adopt it.
 
It's a cool little caliber. Cheap to reload, although not a caliber for a beginner. Sort of like a reloadable .22 Mag. I have been colecting range brass for a while. I did not want to spend $900 to try the pistol, but did finally break down and buy an AR 57 upper for the AR. It is really fun to shoot. Low recoil and accurate. My first range trip was with my reloads, as will be my next.

I don't think it is going to die out, too many guns out there shooting it now. Many folks like it for a range toy. People who don't like recoil like shooting it.
 
I know of one instance where a 5.7 went boom. It was a handloaded double charged round. The shooter posted all over the Internet and the matter was investigated in depth, and the shooter has since eaten crow. It is well documented and a simple search will tell the whole story.

The development of self defense 5.7 rounds continues, and companies like Elite Ammunition have created some very effective rounds showing great promise.
 
You can cast 5.7 bullets?!? I bet I can reload for my 44mag for less!

It would be interesting to do the math. With powder costs going up the 5.7 might surprise you since it uses so little compared to .44 Mag.

I never did the math vs casting your own bullets but it would be close I think. Let's do that :)

Somewhere around 6.5 gr is my load, depending on powder type.

A pound goes a LONG way :)

Here's the math, just out of curiosity, using HS6 for both, at $17 a pound.

6.6 gr for 5.7 - 1.6 cents..... Small primer - 2.7 cents

16.7 gr for 44 Mag - 2.5 cents...... Large primer - 3.1 cents

So before the bullet we're at 4.3 cents a round for the 5.7 and 5.6 cents a round for the 44 Mag.

Those better be some CHEAP bullets because Hornady VMax bullets are only costing me 15 cents each. Even cast bullets have some cost, I have no idea what that would be for a 300gr or so cast .44 bullet. Anyone know? Gotta buy what, tin, antimony, lube, fuel for the furnace. Even if the lead is free. I can't remember what all you have to buy to cast.

And, those are expensive bullets I use, I can get cheap FMJ stuff for a little less probably.

So, my total on 5.7 is about 19.3 cents a round finished, and the 44 Mag is at 5.6 cents without a bullet.

So I will say again, the 5.7 is about the cheapest thing out there for reloading. And the brass seems to have high limits. I have a test batch that's been reloaded 8 times now and no problems. I doubt I'll push the rest of it that far but I was curious.

I shoot my reloads in both my Five Seven handgun and a PS90. No problems in either.

I've seen these blow up out the composite frame and destroy the shooter's hand.

I've seen just about every handgun made blown up and hurt someone when they double charged a reload. Not sure how you can get to blaming the gun for that. And in the case of the Five Seven you have only seen one. The same one the rest of us have seen. Truth about that one follows:

Wait until it stops maiming folks before you adopt it.

You should probably read this before posting again:

http://consumerist.com/5022572/

ETA: The above load with HS6 is just one I pulled off the net for comparison to 44 MAG. It's not my load and I've never tested that load. Beware :)
 
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Handloading the 5.7 is said to be very iffy. If you do a search on the topic I think that you will find that there is zero margin for error when handloading this round, one with very strict tolerances.
 
I think that you will find that there is zero margin for error when handloading this round

That really should be said for every round.

Handloading is potentially dangerous, plain and simple.

I've fired over 1000 rounds of my loads with no problems but yes, it can certainly happen. Have to be super careful. 2/10ths of a grain can change things greatly. The smart thing is to use a load that's a couple or three tenths down from a max load, giving you room for error just in case.

I also go a lot slower with 5.7. No turrets for me here. I hand throw each powder load and check it. Takes longer but it's worth it.

For hunting rounds I use commercial stuff. My reloads are just for killing cardboard.
 
I have three Five-Sevens, Green, Brown, Black. I like the pistol, very lite to carry, 20rd magazines and ammo always $20 -$22 local gun store. I plan on keeping the Green and Brown. Will sell the Black one sometime in the future.
 
I own a USG 5.7 and like it, except the trigger pull, but it seems to get better the more you shoot it. The only problem I have with the 5.7 round is the avalability of new brass, as it's non-existance yet. You have to buy their ammo first, then reload what you shoot. LM
 
I own a USG 5.7 and like it, except the trigger pull, but it seems to get better the more you shoot it. The only problem I have with the 5.7 round is the avalability of new brass, as it's non-existance yet. You have to buy their ammo first, then reload what you shoot. LM
 
I own a USG 5.7 and like it, except the trigger pull, but it seems to get better the more you shoot it. The only problem I have with the 5.7 round is the avalability of new brass, as it's non-existance yet. You have to buy their ammo first, then reload what you shoot. LM
 
I own a USG 5.7 and like it, except the trigger pull, but it seems to get better the more you shoot it. The only problem I have with the 5.7 round is the avalability of new brass, as it's non-existance yet. You have to buy their ammo first, then reload what you shoot. LM
 
I own a USG 5.7 and like it, except the trigger pull, but it seems to get better the more you shoot it. The only problem I have with the 5.7 round is the avalability of new brass, as it's non-existance yet. You have to buy their ammo first, then reload what you shoot. LM
 
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