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Has anyone shot a FN Five-Seven?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Dlowe167, Nov 15, 2012.

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  1. barnbwt

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    Yup the deadly cycle of Cowardly Gun Buyer Capitalism :banghead:

    Since companies will make anything for $ regardless of whether or not it works or is practical, the onus is really on the consumer to determine what should get made. But gun buyers are too scared to buy anything that isn't already a success; hence no progress and we're stuck shooting either 101 year old pistol designs, or identical clones of the last leap in materials science (but not firearms design) from 40 years ago (and the Glock itself uses materials that were developed over 70 years ago). The only innovation industry pushes is manufacturing (i.e. cost cutting).

    Can you blame them? Why would S&W invest in R&D for anything but MIM if they know their customer base won't take a chance on it for 10+ years?

    Luckily, we have a little thing called "Military Contracts" which sidesteps this whole process and allows for real innovation. Thanks to poor processes and nebulous decision-making, a military can basically choose to invest however much it thinks it wants into whatever it feels like funding, for however long it feels like :D

    Though a loss for the tax-payer, ideas like the PS90 and Five-seveN get developed, and have a chance to compete in the marketplace; whereas an innovative company like Mateba with no DoD/MoD funding sees its products initially panned by wary buyers, and goes broke selling them at a loss almost immediately. We then learn ~5 years after production ceases that they've earnd a reputation for great accuracy, comfortable shooting, and superb worksmanship. Oh well... too late now:rolleyes:

    Rant over; but as a guy who'd like to promote a design concept one day, this behavior is really aggravating :banghead:

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  2. Sam Cade

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    Eh?
    What are you talking about?

    FNH isn't a taxpayer funded venture.
     
  3. barnbwt

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    FNH developed the 5.7x28 solely to compete for the NATO PDW contect in the'80s. Civilian market forces would have never prompted them to attempt such a drastic departure from conventional design. The Five-seveN was also developed for the contract.

    Though the contract fell through, FNH still received funding for development; not a great payoff for the member states' taxpayers in thisparticular case.
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  4. Sam Cade

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    How much funding did they receive?

    Where did it come from?

    Got cites?
     
  5. Jaymo

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    The 5.7 round is fun to shoot. I'd love to have the pistol and carbine, but I don't have enough use for it to justify the cost.
    Where I live, I can't use it for small game, and it's not a good deer round.
    It would be nothing but a range toy for me.
    I can't afford a range toy that expensive.
    If Kel-Tec or Ruger made a 5.7 pistol, I'd seriously consider getting one.

    .22 mag does a good job of punching through soft body armor, with fmj ammo.
    7.62x25 does a great job of punching through body armor.
    However, I have no need for that capability, so far.

    I just wish I could find a PPS43 carbine.
    The Tokarev round can also be loaded with .223 bullets, using sabots.
    I can't use it for small game or deer, either. At least it's a lot less expensive.

    In a perfect world, I could buy a brand new C96 Mauser chambered for 5.7.28.
    Just my luck, it's not a perfect world.
     
  6. Sam Cade

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    The MPA 5.7 and Excel Arms Accelerator 5.7 are both under $500.
     
  7. Jaymo

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    Darn you (Sam Cade) enabler!! :)

    Looking at the Accelerator had me convinced that Ruger should bring back the 10/22 mag, and chamber it for 5.7.
    Make a 100 round drum for it and I'd be all over it.
     
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    I do what I can. :D
     
  9. Jaymo

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    Considering the fact that the Excel 5.7 rifle costs about half what an FN carbine does, I'm more likely to be able to afford one.
     
  10. Orion8472

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    jonnyc said, "Eh. Not that exciting, interesting, or accurate. Shot a friend's a few times, but not anything I would ever go out of my way to shoot again..........or buy."


    It may not be exciting/interesting to you, but I have benched mine and comes close to one ragged hole. If you do your part, it is very accurate. The priviledge of commerce is that you are free to purchase or not purchases as per your liking, but be sure to know all the information before making a critique that may not be all true.
     
  11. Gunmaster

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    Shot it with 0 problems, except for the 30 rd promag not working (what a surprise). For the past couple months ammo supply has been dried up for no reason that I can imagine.
     
  12. Taurus 617 CCW

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    I have shot one several times. To me, the recoil is similar to a Glock 19 or similar polymer framed pistol. Accuracy was good. It was fun to shoot but I am not usually in the $900 handgun market. My firearms usually serve more than one purpose and as others have said, the 5.7 would just be a range toy. I will stick to my .22's and 9mm's.
     
  13. Pete D.

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    Accurate

    I have to take exception to at least part of that comment, the "not that.....accurate" part.
    The FiveSeven, not a fanboy here..I call'em as I see'em....is as accurate as any custom CF semi auto. Here is a target that I shot while testing ammo. Benched at 100 yards
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    This was shot offhand
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    Accurate enough.
    Have a tendency to pop fliers up and to the right, don't I?
     
  14. Trent

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    Someone actually said the FiveSeven wasn't accurate?

    Anyone want to take the bet, and is within distance to meet up, it's on the table.

    You can put a soda can out at 100 yards. Wager will be a full tank of fuel I'll hit it first shot.

    Offhand.

    :)
     
  15. Taurus 617 CCW

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    I experienced no accuracy problems with the ones I have shot. The sights were rather tall but it shot to point of aim just fine.
     
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