any reviews advice tips on FN Herstal rifles i see a patrol rifle they make in 308 and i like the looks just wondering on out the box accuracy and any reviews or advice anyone has.
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I have a PBR rifle in .308 with 20" barrel. Great rifle I have found it to be a nice shooter putting my handloads in groups under 1" at 100 yards.
I bought a PBR XP, which is the SPR with the Hogue stock and the CRF action. Great rifle and a couple of pounds lighter than the SPR and about half the cost. If you don't need the McMillan stock, I would suggest the PBR XP. I have no interest in push feed Winchester actions. If you are buying push feed, might as well buy a Remington 700. It has faster lock time.
The remington 700 has always been on my radar would you consider that a better rifle for the price or are they both about the same, I know the rem I will have a better choice of calibors to choose from but i'm thinking of leaning towards 308 anyway suggestions
The mod 700 is also a great rifle, it all depends on what you want. I have a mod 700 in 30.06 and it has been a favorite hunting rifle of mine for over 20 years. I just did a minor rebuild on it new stock, trigger work, new scope and converted it from ADL to BDL. The stock on the mod 700 pictured is a Hogue pillar bed stock just like the one on my PBR.
The PBR and the SPR are fundamentally different rifles for totally different applications.
One has a 20" tapered barrel, the other has a 24" bull barrel. One has a manageable traditionally-shaped hunting stock, the other has a ginormous McMillan A1/A5-style benchrest/sniper stock. One is at home in the woods, the other belongs on a bench. The SPR is going to be a 15-lb rifle by the time you add Badger rings and an appropriate long-range scope, the PBR rig will be 10-lbs with a 3.5-10x40 VXIII. Mine actually weighs less since adding a McMillan Edge stock.
Being an M70 fan, I have both.
Since you specifically asked about the PBR, and subsequently about the M700, I'll tell you that I picked the PBR because it controls the round as it pushes it into the chamber -- i.e. if you hold the rifle on its side while feeding a round, it can't accidentally fall out in the process -- and the safety is a vastly superior design. I don't want to start the old, worn-out M70 vs. M700 debate, so do some searching of your own on Winchesters vs. Remington bolt actions.
My PBR stacks 150gr. Fusions into 0.52" at 100yds very predictably. Your PBR will come with a hammer-forged barrel as well, which is one of the most classic methods for barrel construction.
Best of luck!
Rich
One has a 20" tapered barrel, the other has a 24" bull barrel. One has a manageable traditionally-shaped hunting stock, the other has a ginormous McMillan A1/A5-style benchrest/sniper stock. One is at home in the woods, the other belongs on a bench. The SPR is going to be a 15-lb rifle by the time you add Badger rings and an appropriate long-range scope, the PBR rig will be 10-lbs with a 3.5-10x40 VXIII. Mine actually weighs less since adding a McMillan Edge stock.
Being an M70 fan, I have both.
Since you specifically asked about the PBR, and subsequently about the M700, I'll tell you that I picked the PBR because it controls the round as it pushes it into the chamber -- i.e. if you hold the rifle on its side while feeding a round, it can't accidentally fall out in the process -- and the safety is a vastly superior design. I don't want to start the old, worn-out M70 vs. M700 debate, so do some searching of your own on Winchesters vs. Remington bolt actions.
My PBR stacks 150gr. Fusions into 0.52" at 100yds very predictably. Your PBR will come with a hammer-forged barrel as well, which is one of the most classic methods for barrel construction.
Best of luck!
Rich
My SPR is one of the 650 1st Gen models with the 26" barrel. When Kelly McMillan was looking to develop a new model tactical stock (which became the A5), I was one of 12 people selected to test and evaluate it. I had Kelly inlet the stock for my SPR, which I was looking for an excuse to convert from DBM to floorplate. Matt Williams installed his steel one-piece bottom metal, and George Gardner at GA Precision pillar bedded the stock, lightened the trigger, and installed the Badger bolt knob. With the Badger 20MOA rail, rings, and Leupie M3, this setup goes from 100 yards to 1k in one rev of the el knob.
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Don
The XP has controlled round feed with an external, Mauser-type extractor. The non-XP PBR has controlled-round push-feed, and shown here:
At least, mine is.
Buy the SPR, I am currently working on a Detachable box magazine replacement for the factory.. will use 10 round AICS mags.
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