leadcounsel
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Thoughts on the FNAR .308 vs. other platforms including the FAL, AR10, M1A and PTR91...
FNAR .308 with heavy barrel. Thoughts?
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sjohn26
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Got mine......luv it......................here's a site for more info too:
http://fnforum.net/viewforum.php?f=99&sid=3de593c02c4ec173f7fca1287cbb15b4
http://fnforum.net/viewforum.php?f=99&sid=3de593c02c4ec173f7fca1287cbb15b4
cmdc
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I have an FNAR with the lightweight barrel, which was all I could find 2-3 years ago when I bought it. I actually have yet to shoot the thing, so I'm wondering what is the difference between the two barrels performance-wise, and am I going to wish I had the heavy barrel?
o Unforgiven o
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You bought a rifle 2 or 3 years ago and never shot it?
wally
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If you shoot it more than you carry it, probably, vice-versa, likely not.
cmdc
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Yes my bad. Haven't gotten around to it yet. At this rate it doesn't matter what barrel it has. Lol. I'm going to remedy that soon though.
The FNAR is a quality package, but apples/oranges in the group you compare it to.
Accurate longer-range precision shooting package with the capability of adapting the stock to the user's physique.
Not a battle rifle, not a "field gun".
Based on the Browning BAR hunting rifle, not particularly simple to break down for cleaning.
Denis
Accurate longer-range precision shooting package with the capability of adapting the stock to the user's physique.
Not a battle rifle, not a "field gun".
Based on the Browning BAR hunting rifle, not particularly simple to break down for cleaning.
Denis
Al Thompson
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IMHO, civilian hunting rifle with new features designed to make a very nice police semi-auto sniper rifle.
Bill_Rights
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leadcounsel,
I own both the LB and the HB, thinking there might be a difference and that the lighter one would be better for my wife/kids/smaller folks to shoulder. Compared to the major qualities of the rifle, LB vs HB makes little difference. What I say here applies to both.
This is a solid platform, recently re-engineered from butt to muzzle, though as Moderator Al and many others point out, the semi-auto gas drive is based upon the Browning BAR (as if being based upon one of the most long-lived, trouble-free actions in history is some sort of problem). The FNAR is an extremely smooth, forgiving, stable and accurate source of raw .30 cal firepower. FNH USA markets it as a police DMR (designated marksman rifle), which it surely can be/do. The DMR role is shorter range than true sniper role, but the FNAR is more toward a police SHTF rifle even than its DMR role. I think some LEO jurisdictions want be sure they're not out gunned by multiple shooters in a running chaos situation, and the FNAR can be a more-than-equalizer. Drywall, auto bodies, windows, windshields, light/medium body armour, etc. cover/concealment are not proof against full-power .30 cal rounds in rapid aimed fire.
It is hard to talk and write about the FNAR because it does not belong in a comfortable category. It is not a civilian version of a military rifle and, certainly, is not a hunting rifle or competition target rifle. This rifle is what it is, and what it is speaks to a dark fact of life, that civil society can break down or be severely tested. Not to say the FNAR is alone in this regard, but it is designed to be highly effective in meeting such tests. And, as a bonus, it's a hoot to shoot!
I own both the LB and the HB, thinking there might be a difference and that the lighter one would be better for my wife/kids/smaller folks to shoulder. Compared to the major qualities of the rifle, LB vs HB makes little difference. What I say here applies to both.
This is a solid platform, recently re-engineered from butt to muzzle, though as Moderator Al and many others point out, the semi-auto gas drive is based upon the Browning BAR (as if being based upon one of the most long-lived, trouble-free actions in history is some sort of problem). The FNAR is an extremely smooth, forgiving, stable and accurate source of raw .30 cal firepower. FNH USA markets it as a police DMR (designated marksman rifle), which it surely can be/do. The DMR role is shorter range than true sniper role, but the FNAR is more toward a police SHTF rifle even than its DMR role. I think some LEO jurisdictions want be sure they're not out gunned by multiple shooters in a running chaos situation, and the FNAR can be a more-than-equalizer. Drywall, auto bodies, windows, windshields, light/medium body armour, etc. cover/concealment are not proof against full-power .30 cal rounds in rapid aimed fire.
It is hard to talk and write about the FNAR because it does not belong in a comfortable category. It is not a civilian version of a military rifle and, certainly, is not a hunting rifle or competition target rifle. This rifle is what it is, and what it is speaks to a dark fact of life, that civil society can break down or be severely tested. Not to say the FNAR is alone in this regard, but it is designed to be highly effective in meeting such tests. And, as a bonus, it's a hoot to shoot!
I own the cousin, Winchester SX-AR. I agree with most of what's been said. Mostly, it's an accurate .308 with the ability to use 20 round mags that is also very comfortable and to me extremely ergonomic. Mine is a fine hunting gun and I plan on using it a lot more in the woods in the near future.
Bill_Rights
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Yes, from what I hear, the Winchester SX-AR is basically the same as the FNAR, probably the light barrel FNAR minus the fore-stock cheek Picatinny rails. When you say "comfortable and to me extremely ergonomic. Mine is a fine hunting gun", I know what you mean. My FNARs just feel solid, right and tight. Gives me a lot of confidence. The FNAR/SX-AR is simply a fine "pattern" for a rifle, especially performance-wise. I thought that the thick barrel steel, even for the LB (light barrel) might make it front heavy, but I do not notice this at all any more. I do think this forward weighting helps resist muzzle lift during recoil.
And yes, sure, I would hunt with mine and it would do a fine job. But I have a little 6 pound Marlin bolt in .308 for that. Nowhere near as "solid" a gun but much more "sporting".
And yes, sure, I would hunt with mine and it would do a fine job. But I have a little 6 pound Marlin bolt in .308 for that. Nowhere near as "solid" a gun but much more "sporting".
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