Legionnaire
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Picture, as promised above. This is after getting it back from Tumbleweeds, who rechambered it in .280 Ackley Improved.
it's about a perfect rifle, just needs crf and a 3 position safety with bolt lock.Maybe, but I'm Thankful!
If you enjoy the less common a 7X64mm Brenneke might catch your interest as it has mine. Born in 1917 it's the original 7mm long action cartridge with a standard barrel rifling twist rate of 1:8.66".My only experience with a 7mm is in .280 Remington.
I haven't owned one in a while, but plan to get another.
My first 3 deer were with a NEF Handi Rifle in that caliber.
I think I'll either go that route or get a .280 AI eventually. I like having something not many others have.
Have you personally chambered & fired factory 280 Remington ammunition in a rifle chambered for 7X64mm Brenneke?You can shoot 280 rem in the 7x64 of your worried about ammo, I'd like to get one again, maybe mauser will bring the m18 in it over here or sauer.
yes some will work, there could be some chamber differences in who makes the reamer. If they don't chamber you can run a loaded 280 in a fl die with the expander removed.Have you personally chambered & fired factory 280 Remington ammunition in a rifle chambered for 7X64mm Brenneke?
1-9.25 was the 7mms twist, it kinda went up and down over they years. With that twist you can shoot any 7mms that the 7-08 will shoot at reasonable speeds. The 160s are about it with the 7-08, it can shoot heavier but does not quite have the powder capacity for them. Unless going after big stuff like moose and elk there's not much need to use more then 140, they work very well in 7mms. Lighter are fine just have to watch the speed.I like my 7mm-08. I bought it on a whim when I lost a 30 06 (long story). It was 2 days before hunting season and I needed to get sighted in and the shop owner basically told me it was better than everything else. Lol.
Not to derail this but since we are talking 7's and we have some of our resident ballisticians on this thread, off the cuff what "should" be the best bullet weight for an 18"bbl with 1:8.5 twist. That's relatively fast for a 7-08 with 1:10's being most common no?
I was wondering if the 1:8.5 would handle the heavier loads better being faster rifling. Example 120gr-140gr for 1:10 and 140gr-150+gr for 1:8.5 ? Just wondering if I'm even close to being on the right thought path. I have never stretched it out beyond 100 yards and I do remember 150gr Federal shooting the best in it but I've only tried 3 different kinds, 139gr interlocks and 140gr partitions. The Federal 150's were best though. Partitions were a total no-go. Probably have no business buying them ever again the way they grouped, or didn't.
I did grab a couple boxes of 120gr NBT to try but I just dont know if I'm going too low in weight for the 1:8.5 twist. I figured since I had a really short 18" bbl I could use the added velocity using 120's. I already know I'm way overthinking it, I'm just curious about it more than anything really
Is "Yes some will work", an affirmative you've personally done this? Which brands & loads of 280 Remington factory ammunition are among the "some will work" in your experience?yes some will work, there could be some chamber differences in who makes the reamer. If they don't chamber you can run a loaded 280 in a fl die with the expander removed.
All 280 rifles I've seen I'll shoot 7x 64 just fine. The x64 is a little longer case the 280 case is a bit flatter at the shoulder. The x64 I think holds about 1 grain more with that 40° shoulder.
I shot some Remington corlokt 280 in a pre war German sporter I had. It could have just been the chamber spec back then was a little different then more modern ones.Is "Yes some will work", an affirmative you've personally done this? Which brands & loads of 280 Remington factory ammunition are among the "some will work" in your experience?
While waiting for a more definitive response I added to my earlier post. You may wish to see what I added.I shot some Remington corlokt 280 in a pre war German sporter I had. It could have just been the chamber spec back then was a little different then more modern ones.
Every 280rem rifle I had shot the 7x64 perfect.
You can shoot 7x64 in 280rem, I'd like to get one again, maybe mauser will bring the m18 in it over here or sauer.
That might be a function of the 30-06 Springfield brass used, the Chuck Hawk article link is just one source for that info.There maybe some head space difference tho it seems to work I'd really only do it in a crf action to hold the case to the bolt if there is to much headspace. I read once the headspace may seem more then it is since 7x64 is not sammi the spot they measure for head space is not the same as the 280.
You really need 270 or 280 brass to make 7x64 06 length cases will stretch some when sized but not a from what I've seen.
I consider the recoil of my 7 mag X-Bolt extremely moderate, maybe equivalent to a 20 gauge with target loads. The rifle itself is on the lighter side.'ve never fired any other 7mm and want to try a 7mm mag but everyone says recoil is worse than 30-06? Well see!