Devonai
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Are you sure you weren't throwing the practice grenades?
I myself was rather impressed with the M67 frag, and I wish they would have let me throw more than two.
Former Coroner Dumps Live Hand Grenade in Cistern
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Are you sure you weren't throwing the practice grenades?
I myself was rather impressed with the M67 frag, and I wish they would have let me throw more than two.
joab
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Yes, because subsequent grenades left the same impression on me
I used to let the practice grenades go off in my hand, while the real thing wasn't as impressive as Hollywood had led me to believe it was impressive enough to make me not want to do the same with one of them
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myrockfight
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Couple issues...
The article stated: “Basically … it’s like putting up an electric fence and a kid gets shocked.”
Actually it isn't anything like that. The grenade didn't go off and nobody was harmed.
I don't know why he didn't just drive out to the middle of BFE and set the thing off. If he was in so good with the police department, he could have gotten one of them to take it off his hands. Or he could have had someone drive him out to BFE if he wasn't capable of driving or didn't own a car anymore.
The article stated: “Basically … it’s like putting up an electric fence and a kid gets shocked.”
Actually it isn't anything like that. The grenade didn't go off and nobody was harmed.
I don't know why he didn't just drive out to the middle of BFE and set the thing off. If he was in so good with the police department, he could have gotten one of them to take it off his hands. Or he could have had someone drive him out to BFE if he wasn't capable of driving or didn't own a car anymore.
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He had altered it, it probably would have gone off too quickly to throw, though he could have used a string or something. Still, if he did that and it didn't go off he'd have another problem on his hands. By throwing in the water he hoped to deactivate it. If that would have actually worked I don't know.
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myrockfight said:
Hell, have the cops drive him to BFE and let the cops toss the grenade!
Hell, have the cops drive him to BFE and let the cops toss the grenade!
jaholder1971
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The guy's 82, in assisted living, a retired BG and law enforcement legend. He's also a pillar of the community giving a half million in scholarships.
Feds won't touch him. If they do he'll end up in Club Fed where he'll have more freedom than he has now in the nursing home.
Feds won't touch him. If they do he'll end up in Club Fed where he'll have more freedom than he has now in the nursing home.
joab
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What was the alteration that made it go off too quickly to throw?
TallPine
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The part about the electric fence is just ignorant too 
Electric fences are high voltage, nearly zero amps, pulsing current that give you quite a jolt but can't harm you. We have electric fence around our pasture, and our kids (the horses) know to stay away from the "hot wire."
Electric fences are high voltage, nearly zero amps, pulsing current that give you quite a jolt but can't harm you. We have electric fence around our pasture, and our kids (the horses) know to stay away from the "hot wire."
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We don't know what the alteration was, but it doesn't really matter. If you try to get rid of a grenade by throwing it and it doesn't go off (always a possibility), what then? I know I wouldn't go picking it back up.
Dorryn
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Again, its not what you know, its who you know. A brigadier general isnt going down anytime soon.
joab
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The you call the police and say
"Look what I found while hiking in this remote area Sheriff Pokerbuddy.
Too bad you have to blow it up and remove the finger prints"
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I too take much of the story cum granis salis, but I don't know much about grenades.
So somebody enhance my knowledge base:
I imagine that kind of thing is pretty well waterproofed. How long might it have taken for the water to seep in and decativate it?
Or for the pin to rust out and allow the hammer to hit the primer?
(An aside: Can a private party purchase those bank dye packs? Can one rig these in a strategic place to identify a robber? Seems to me if the banks can use 'em without liability, an ordinary mortal such as myself should be able to, also.)
So somebody enhance my knowledge base:
I imagine that kind of thing is pretty well waterproofed. How long might it have taken for the water to seep in and decativate it?
Or for the pin to rust out and allow the hammer to hit the primer?
(An aside: Can a private party purchase those bank dye packs? Can one rig these in a strategic place to identify a robber? Seems to me if the banks can use 'em without liability, an ordinary mortal such as myself should be able to, also.)
Devonai
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As far as I know, water wouldn't do a darn thing to a M67 frag grenade, although I obviously don't know if that's what this case entails. I've been trained on them, so here's my semi-edumacated guess on how they work.
The frag grenade is a sphere of Comp B surrounded by a metal shell. Inside is the fuse, which is nothing more than a striker-ignited flammable cord. When you remove both safeties (one pin goes left, the other goes right) and release the spoon, a spring causes a flint to ignite the cord. It burns down to the core, where a primary explosion ignites the Comp B. The secondary, or main explosion, causes the metal shell to fragment and deals hot death to anyone within 5 meters (and ruins the day of anyone within 15m).
Please correct any inaccuracies.
p.s. the saying goes that all 5 second fuses burn down in 3, and all 3 second fuses burn down instantly.
The frag grenade is a sphere of Comp B surrounded by a metal shell. Inside is the fuse, which is nothing more than a striker-ignited flammable cord. When you remove both safeties (one pin goes left, the other goes right) and release the spoon, a spring causes a flint to ignite the cord. It burns down to the core, where a primary explosion ignites the Comp B. The secondary, or main explosion, causes the metal shell to fragment and deals hot death to anyone within 5 meters (and ruins the day of anyone within 15m).
Please correct any inaccuracies.
p.s. the saying goes that all 5 second fuses burn down in 3, and all 3 second fuses burn down instantly.
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