FR-8: World's only bolt-action assault rifle

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Andrew,
I was refering to the "ring". HK calls it the "globe". You use the globe as the "front post" and the big notch at the rear as you would a set of pistol sights. The top of the globe even with the top of the rear notch, just like a giant set of pistol sights. If you do this with both eyes open and put the actual post within the globe on where you want the bullet to go, thats where it will go. Your eye pretty much does this by itself without thinking about it. When you throw the rifle up and get that snap sight picture, if you slowlty roll your head and eye down, you will see the small notch and the front sight post are lined up as they should be right where you were aiming. Its a lot easier to show than it is to type. :) This works on the HK's too. Its actually a very fast combat type sight for close up snap shooting once when you get used to it. The threads on the front sight post are fine enough that one full revolution doesnt really change vertical impact all that much, so the windage adjustment can be made. I agree, its annoying, but it works, and once set you dont have to fool with them. I did have to make a sight tool out of an old flat bladed screwdriver as there were none to be found. I still havent seen an original. HK did clean the design up, but theirs isnt a treat to zero either, but again, once set, they are set. Congrats on your third from the last. Considering what you were shooting against, sounds like you did ok. :)

omega5,
Thanks for the pic of the sight diagram. I always assumed that was what it was, but never could find anything to prove it.
 
I got a few from Allan's Armory (www.allansarmory.com IIRC) a couple of years ago, mainly to complement my CETME. Very nice condition, as reflected by his prices ($225 -250 IIRC) but they came with a bayonet (really nice curved edge) and sling. I got the cleaning kit package as well, but I forget if it came with my CETME or FR-8 (or both, I REALLY need to visit the back corners of my safes more often! :) ). Anyway, as a lefty, I didn't find the straight bolt any easier to operate than a curved bolt. In fact, the FR-8 seemed to lock up pretty tight after firing, but I never shot it much so practice may help. Of note, the bayonet cap on the FR-8 will NOT fit on the CETME, so no AFT worry issues there :) I'm not a fan of the paddle rear sight so I never did much precision work with it. But it is an extremely handy little rifle and a worthy addition to any arsenal!
 
A comment on nomenclature

A small side point.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that it's "FR8" versus "FR-8" based on what's stamped into the side of the receivers that I've seen.

Just love those things. Maybe I'll put a few rounds through my favorite this weekend. After all, I have a birthday coming up. :)
 
Turn your front sight up 4 to 5 turns then you can use the 200m peep as 100m then all you have to do is set the windage.
I can see a lot better through the peep
 
So that's what happens nine months after a Mauser and an HK91 get wasted after a Rammstein concert and spend the night in the back of a Vee-Dubya microbus? :D

Neat! Are they Cali-legal? Boy it would be neat to have HK make these things. Just because.
 
I don't see how they wouldn't be Cali-legal. They have a flash hider and a bayo lug, but they're just bolt-crankers.
 
You guys using the "V" sights--stop it! Readjust your 200M aperture for 100 yards (or don't--just hold about 2" low or shoot tight groups at 200). You will be amazed at how much more accurate your rifle becomes. Those V's are too coarse for any precision. The aperture is not.
 
Cali legal? YES!
Big5 was selling these a year or 2 ago and I had to have one :D IIRC, it was like $150 in great shape and shoots really well. Its my favorite bolt gun, and the only one I have in .308 :(
 
I think that it is Spanish! I second that it is 0ne of my three favorite rifles.
1. M1 Garand
2. FR8
3. Hakim
These three keep me broke buying ammo!!
 
They're uniquely Spanish. The new German Army never issued Mauser-type rifles*, so they had no large Mauser stocks to be retrofitted when the G3 was introduced.

*The exception is the German Army's Wachbataillon, the honor guard bataillon that supplies parade-ground troops for foreign dignitary visits in the Capital. They are issued Mauser 98k rifles for parade and drill, since a wood-aand-steel rifle looks more festive than a G3. Those are the only Mausers still in active German service.

A friend of mine served in that bataillon, and they did nothing but drill all day. His field jacket wore out on his shoulder from slamming the Mauser bolt into it during "present arms", which he had to do about a million times. On the upside, service in that bataillon lets you see national and foreign dignitaries up close.
 
How do you turn the front sight? Do you need a special tool? Looks like there are two cutouts where some kind of key can be inserted. Dunno. I'm using the "V" rear right now, and it works okay. The peep would probably work better for me, though.

Also, I'm having feed problems with mine. I'm starting to think it came with the wrong magazine follower. Mine slides back and forth lengthwise about half an inch. When I load five rounds, the rear ends of the rounds don't stick up high enough to be caught by the bolt, and on the first and third rounds, the bolt will often slide right over the rounds. Help! :(

Otherwise, my FR-8 is a spiffy little shooter. Using Aussie .308, I got a five shot group at 50 yds. you could cover with a quarter. That's not too bad for me with irons.
 
I just bought an FR* that popped up at a local gun shop for $150.00
The shop-owner kept insisting that this wasn't designed for .308--even wrote it on the receipt Says it needs .308 CETME
The rifle has 7.62 stamped on one side and FR8 stamped into it on the other side of the receiver and 1 other place.
On top of the receiver is a worn "Fabrique something (I think) and at the bottom of this crest is the date 1956
Can this rifle handle NATO surplus and factory .308 Winchester?
I ask because an earlier post says they were made in the '60's and this has 1956 stamped on it
Thanks for your help
 
Lots of opinions on FR7, FR8, 7.62 CETME, 7.62 NATO, .308 Win.....

My observed OPINION:

-FR7: ONLY downloaded ammo or 7.62 CETME (not NATO or .308)
-FR8: 7.62 NATO likely OK, stay away from .308 Win for safety

Yes, anecdotes abound, but IMHO the above will work and keep you safe.

All of the above only for sound rifles properly inspected, etc.
 
Nice lookin' rifle Marko, thanks for sharing the pics and info.

I was wondering about these rifles myself. I saw one at a gunshow earlier this month for $150. I knew what it was, but didn't know the details about it. Unfortunately, I saw it after I blew all my money. There were just too many things I wanted that day.
 
your killing me with the "not strong enuff for full power" bit.. if a 98 large ring mauser can handle 7mm,8mm, 30-06, and all the other rounds these things have been customized for, i wouldnt sweat shooting factory .308 thru it. i personally havnt been able to get me hands on one but as soon as i do im buying it.
 
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This one is $300 on gunsamerica.

Looks like someone removed the lower tube to put it in a mauser stock.
 
your killing me with the "not strong enuff for full power" bit.. if a 98 large ring mauser can handle 7mm,8mm, 30-06, and all the other rounds these things have been customized for,

I certainly wouldn't go running any Hornady Light Magnums through a Spanish M43 action, but it should be okay with limited use of commercial hunting ammo. I reckon it'd make a hella little brush rifle, but I mostly just use mine for plinking with CAVIM or other milsurp ball too icky to shoot in my HK. :uhoh:
 
ElToro,go into your local Big5 and ask them to check with the warehouse to see if they have any, and can transferr it to their store for you,they will then call you when it comes.
 
Calling Big 5 in the San Jose area was a bust. Maybe some surplus house will pop up with some.
 
I think its getting to be a matter of luck finding an FR8 these days. I think I'll cruise the next bay area gun show to see whats available.
 
Shameless plug...

I resurrected this thread to point out that I have an FR8 for sale - see this thread in the "For Sale" forums. If those of you who were looking for one are still looking, now's your chance! :D


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I had one of these FR8's back in the mid '90's and foolishly got rid of it due to some mis-information from my buddy.He claimed it had a soft receiver due to the serial no, range.I took a beating on it as I told the new owner of the supposed problem.He's probably still laughing.Sure wished I wouldn't have listened to him.tom.:mad:
 
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