frustrating moment

[redranger1]

So last night i was comming home on the interstate and got pulled over for speeding which i had comming. But the issue is that when he asked for my insurance i had to inform him that my 92 Beretta was in the glove box with my insurance. he asked if it was loaded and i said that there was a loaded clip in it but an empty chamber. He asked for me to step out of my truck and he retrieved my pistol from the glove box, seperated the clips from the pistol and then checked the chamber. All of which i had no problem with except that he seemed nervous and kinda fumbling around with my pistol. He then started to lay the pistol on the hood of his patrol car and it began to slide a lil. So then he attempted to put my pistol between his duty belt and his back. I was getting kinda worried cause he was fumbling with it a while and i was afraid that he would drop it. Well he musta thought that he got it secure but when he started to take a step it fell to the ground it landed on the white lline of the pavement and struck the hammer, sight, and safety. :banghead: As frusterating as that was i didnt say anything and i let it go since he didnt give me a ticket. I did think it was unexcusable that the officer dropped it, and awefully unprofesional of him to not even apologizefor it. Also he was telling me that the way i was carrying it was a felony offense, is that right? Anyhow, im done venting.

 

[1 old 0311]

I know more than a few LEO's. Almost to a man they are NOT 'gun people.' THEIR gun is part of their job. Not unlike the computer, or radar gun. When faced with anothers gun most are clueless. This is not a knock on them, it is just a fact.

Kevin

 

[Lupinus]

if it is an offence or not depends on your state law and since I'm not familiar with your state law I'm not sure. However, if it was a felony I doubt you would have been getting off with a warning.

As to him dropping that is inexcusable. Disarming is one thing, but mishandling a persons property is quite another and if he has no idea what he is doing he shouldn't even be trying he should have just taken it back to his car laid it on the passenger seat and when done returned it to you. If it had been a radio, TV, laptop, whatever, and he had dropped it there is no difference and a lot more people would be saying make them pay for it. But since it is a gun people don't care since in general people dislike guns. It is your property, he dropped it, that is inexcusable. Personally his department would be getting a call and possibly a complaint filed. Is there any damage? If so I'd be making an even bigger fuss and demanding compensation. And calling my lawyer if need be.

 

[JJNews]

If it was a felony offence then he would have to arrest you. Think sawed off shotgun in the back seat.
It is my understanding that the glove box law in MO allows you to keep ammo, and gun together. They passed it before the conceal, and carry(ccw). The argument was that your car is your property no much differnt from your house, but you are subgect to respect other peoples propperty such as posted signs in parking lots, and such. So i'm pretty sure it's not a felony.

 

[Flatfender]

Sorry your gun got damaged by this knucklehead. He already seperated you from the truck, he should've just left the gun where it was.

I remember reading about a guy being stopped in Arizona, having the cops take his gun, unload the MAGAZINES (not Clips BTW ) throw the cartridges in a baggy and sprayed WD40 on them to kill the primers. Handed him back the pistol and the bag of soggy cartridges and sent him on his way

 

[redranger1]

As much as i would love to complain i think ill just let it slide since my speeding offense was 85+ in a 70. He was polite, didnt hassle me, and he didnt give me a ticket. And given that i have a CDL thats good news for me! I am going to check up on my local laws so i will be in the right and also seperate my insurance and registration from my weapons so the cops dont have an excuse to be handling my property.

On the upside, this will be a good excuse to do some customizing on my baby. Im thinkin maybe an olive moly resin finish slide with black hammer, sights, and safety with a black frame and olive trigger, slide release, MAGAZINED ) release, and grip screws.

 

[Valkman]

Separating your documents and gun doesn't guarantee they still aren't going to handle the gun - some places like Metro and NHP here ALWAYS disarm you, unload and run the numbers on the gun.

I got stopped for 85 in a 70 a few weeks ago and gave the officer my carry permit along with drivers license and he wound up disarming me, unloading the gun and running the serial #. When he was done he placed the gun and mag on the back floor behind the wife and gave her the spare round, and wrote me a $67 ticket instead of the $300 + points one he could have.

Here's the thread on my stop: http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=196631&highlight=valkman

 

[TallPine]

Carry your registration and insurance papers somewhere other than with your gun. (the dash on my old pickup is all cracked so I have one of those soft dash covers, and my registration/insurance is in a little slipcase under the dash cover right in front of me).

Don't ask, don't tell (unless required by law in your state).

Avoid parentheses (unless absolutely necessary).

 

[the naked prophet]

Missouri law allows you to carry concealed in your car (this means you can have it in a holster on your person, or in the glove box, or under the seat. Whatever.) if you can legally own the gun. Get the free brochure from the MO highway patrol. It's covered in there. Carry one with you in the car.

RSMO 571

571.030. 1. A person commits the crime of unlawful use of weapons if he or she knowingly:

(1) Carries concealed upon or about his or her person a knife, a firearm, a blackjack or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use;
...
3. ... Subdivision (1) of subsection 1 of this section does not apply to any person twenty-one years of age or older transporting a concealable firearm in the passenger compartment of a motor vehicle, so long as such concealable firearm is otherwise lawfully possessed,...

Download the MOHP brochure and print it off to carry with you, or get a glossy one from your local HP headquarters.

 

[atlctyslkr]

Sorry your gun got dropped. I've only been disarmed once. I was carrying a loaded snub 38 in a gym bag in my back seat. This is legal here with a permit. Cop took the gun, dumped the cylinder on the seat and walked back to his car with it and handed it to his partner to "check". Needless to say I didn't get the ticket he had planned on giving me. For some reasons when cops find a gun on a traffic stop and its legal they tend to overlook what they stopped you for!

 

[Matt King]

I know more than a few LEO's. Almost to a man they are NOT 'gun people.' THEIR gun is part of their job. Not unlike the computer, or radar gun. When faced with anothers gun most are clueless. This is not a knock on them, it is just a fact.

I too know more than a few LEO's myself and every single one of them are "gun people". Look at Coronach a moderator here, who is also a LEO.
I guess it is just hit and miss.

 

[armoredman]

A deputy sheriff in Pima County took a firearm in a traffic stop, according to one of my old instructors, and placed it on the sloping hood of a running vehicle, which promptly vibrated it onto the pavement. The officer was held liable for repair to both finish and grips...and paid up.

 

[facedown]

...throw the cartridges in a baggy and sprayed WD40 on them to kill the primers.

Huh? Unless the primers are mighty loose in the pockets, WD40 won't do anything.

 

[Flatfender]

I know, but the whole idea of why the cops would want to have the guy disarmed long after they've left is baffling.

 

[redranger1]

thanks for the heads up naked prophet. btw, where are you from?