Future owner of a N Frame 625JM, One Question please.

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Ok, so I lied about one question. This is one I don't feel can be or is needed as a search thread. I just need some quick schooling
The gun is a round butt
I am seeing a lot of nice grips, I am aware that a lot of people like the rubber grips, I don't.
I think the grips on it are slick, but I don't leave originals on nice guns. Just me.
I do plan on shooting the heck out of it and I am excited to get a .45 acp so my bullets are all the same.
Question is, the grips are so different. I thought I wanted a checkered PF or House with finger grooves
I read reviews of the grips I like and they talk about how easy it is to conceal.
I don't like the conversion grips.
If I am looking for something nice, grippy I want it to be big enough for my hand to feel like it fits it, instead of it being a smaller grip.
I know you FOGs are gonna set me straight. what do I look for to get a grip made more for non concealed grippy wood grips.
And do the checkered grips with finger grooves, well is that going a bit too far?
I appreciate your patience with me

thanks, I am very excited, outside of an LCR I got my wife, this is my first revolver. Just for point of reference I am going to post a photo of the gun stock.
I get to pick it up this week and I feel like a kid. All these Dan 1911s etc laying around and I am freaking out to get my hands on this gun

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just an observation before my recommendation. Jerry has huge hands and the stock grips were patterned after the ones he uses on his competition guns...believe me, they are large enough for most folks. while they appear "slick", the lack of checkering or texture allows the gun to seat itself in his hands as he takes his grip...there is a whole school of thought on this from back in the 70s with the Seventrees ASP. but then Jerry is a bit different, he shoots a serrated trigger rather than a smooth one too.

nice hand filling grips, that aren't rubber, are the checkered Monogrip from Hogue. besides a nice selection of wood, the palm swell really fills your hand. they also make a "big butt" version that rules revolver competition
 
The 625JM will be my next gun as well. I have a couple folks hunting one down for me. It will be my first revolver and like you my other 45 is a DW CBOB. Cant wait to get my hands on this.
 
I think my FFL has 2 counting the one held for me.
I think based on that awesome response that no matter what I am going to shoot it first.
Now the moon grips I like the style a lot, so I was hoping they came in woods like that.
Really my big concern changing the grip was to make sure I didn't get something people buy for concealed carry, more for shooting fun. I am serious about my range time. I do have some numb hand issues. So I just thought more control may be better.
But that's good points and very valid. Thanks for taking a little time with a new SW Revolver guy.
I think I will get a snub next for back up carry. I do want the .45 lightweight.
I never even knew you could buy a 45 acp or I would have been with you guys long ago.

the only thing I guess I am in need of a little more info on.
My ffl is a revolver lover.
I was told the moon clips are very nice, I read about them and records blah blah blah.
My true concern and question is, I see post here by people I trust talking about "demooners"
I asked my ffl and basically was told you just open the cylinder and push the rod.
Is a tool needed to take them in and out of the moon clip? I see the nice links to the demooner and just looking at it you can't get a good idea of what it does.
I am assuming the shells are tough to put in or take out of the moons when done popping the clip of empties out?

And thanks a lot! ( I picked a good weapon it seems. You guys rock.)
 
Jerry might have big hands but his and Hogue's regular Monogrip are all to thin for me and I don't care for the ambidextrous palm swell one bit. Nor do I like rubber, fingergrooves or checkering. I'm 35 so you can't call me an ole fart, I came about my preferences the old-fashioned way, trial and error. I like a smooth, grooveless target stock. Not too thick like the later model factory Goncalo alves target stocks but not too thin either. Ahrends Retro Targets are excellent for an off-the-shelf grip but Herrett's Ropers are my favorite.

http://www.herrett-stocks.com
 
I was at the FFL today and flirted with the JM while picking up a sig 238 I am not keeping (crap)
and I felt the grip was not real bad, but I need to be able to get my fingers another half inch around to be truly comfy.
The round but and stock grips, I like it some but it's now looking almost 1" or 3/4" longer than my hand needs.
The links are awesome. I appreciate the help so much, I just wanted to hear from the real veteran revolver guys, I know it's a special group and the weapon is special to me already.
I get it tomorrow, did i mention that! lol
I will look through those links. I wonder if I get a nice look slick pair or wood that had more than top finger groove, I would be very happy.
Maybe I can look around at the range and just get an idea of how long I need them. The single finger grove still makes me weary it's a shot grip.

You guys are very kind. If there is ever anything I can do for any of you let me know.
I am a 1911 freak, now I can say soon I am a revolver freak as well. I see Gemini getting a hold of it as soon as I can get some good rounds through it. This is like a sickness. >)

any of you see the scandium ccw Botachdefense put on sale yesterday? It's not a .45 but it's a nice light gun and a great price from what i Have seen and I am alraedy looking around for a 2"

thanks again
 
I'm not a fan of rubber grips either. I have a set of Hogues on my 29 MG that are nice. But then I ordered a set of S&W walnut presentation grips that I just love. You don't want conversion grips but check with S&W just the same.
 
I just got a 625JM - my 3rd N-frame. All mine have the JM grips. For speed shooting, a smooth grip seems to works best, because you can make minor adjustments between the holster and the firing position. Jerry uses cornstarch on his hands to make the grips seem even slicker. I don't sweat much, so I don't bother.

My JM had a fair trigger, but certainly nothing special. I did a full action job including springs and an extended firing pin. It's like night and day. The DA pull probably isn't really 80% lighter, but it feels that way.

Concealment: I wore my 4" M-29 in a Kydex OWB holster for a few weeks under my usual Aloha shirt just to see if anyone would notice. At 5'9" and 150 lbs, it was obvious as hell. It stuck out a mile. Felt like half a steel grapefruit stuck to my side. The 2 speedloaders were about as bad.

Nobody noticed a thing.

Concealability is overrated. Don't worry about it. Unless you're a supermodel or on fire, no one will give you a 2nd look.
 
I shoot with both the stock wood and Hogue. I like both on this gun. The rubber help tame recoil a bit, but the wood gets me a higher grip. This gun is one great firearm. Have fun.
 
Is a tool needed to take them in and out of the moon clip?
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Yes.
A De-mooner is almost a necessity.

You can make one out of an old golf club shaft or piece of 1/2" steel thin-wall pipe with the end filed off halfway. You just set it over the empty and twist the case out.
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=6727/Product/MOON_CLIP_STRIPPER

A "Mooner" you can take or leave if you have a common pair of pliers to snap rounds in with.

Half-moon clips are easier to load & unload but still hard on the fingers without a demooner.

The main thing is to get a bunch of extra moon clips and load them all at home in your spare time. It's not something fun to do at the range if you only have a few clips that come with the gun.

rc
 
Absolutely perfect,
Thanks sir, I do appreciate it a lot.

I got exactly what I needed, Hail The Vets of THR
 
When it comes to grips, keep this in mind:

There are hundreds of different sizes and styles of grip available.
Every one of them is somebody's favorite.
Most people wouldn't be caught dead with 95% of them on their gun.
Opinions you get on an Internet forum won't tell you a thing about how any grip will work for you.
Most of us have a box containing at least a dozen grips that didn't work for us. It sits right next to the box of holsters that didn't work out.
 
Opinions you get on an Internet forum won't tell you a thing about how any grip will work for you.
Most of us have a box containing at least a dozen grips that didn't work for us. It sits right next to the box of holsters that didn't work out.
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AMEN TO THAT BROTHER ! ! ! !

I've only been in the sport for two years and I've already got a start on the same sort of collection. :D

Cigarhead, congrats on picking out a great gun. But as a few along with Japle have suggested don't go all crazy switching the grips for a while. Shoot a few hundred rounds out of it and get a feel for the grips it comes with. If they feel small in one area or another stick on some pads or use some tape or whatever and adjust the fit until you're happy. You may even find that you want to remove some wood in some spots. Once you're happy with the fit compare the final lashup to what is out there on the market. Or consider having a good woodworker churn out a set of custom grips that match the fit of the bodged up grips.

Don't ignore the type of finish that is put onto the wood either. Shiney looks nice in the box but can slip around too much in the hand. A more basic oil finish won't stay nice looking for as long and will require occasional solvent washes and re finishing to remove the grime but will offer a far more slip free hold in a sweaty hand for a match but still be easy to reposition when needed. This is why back in the old days master carpenters laughed at the then new shiney varnished hammer handles as newbie tools designed to look good on the wall instead of in the hand. Instead they went for the dull looking oiled or even raw wood handles knowing that they would require less of an effort to hold, slip less in the hand and cause less blisters as a result.
 
Most of us have a box containing at least a dozen grips that didn't work for us. It sits right next to the box of holsters that didn't work out.
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...and it's worst for revolver shooters that semi-auto owners. i remember going through the S&W Target grip phase, the Pachmyar rubber grip phase. the cut down Pach phase, the Uncle Mike Boot grip phase and the Hogue rubber and wood phase...the only thing that saved me from the Fishpaw phase was the cost of each set and the wait involved
 
In my previous post I did`nt elaborate much on my opinion !

I don`t neccasarily like the looks or palm swells but shootin & reloadin in a timed situation the smooth grip allows a qwiker adjustment of the hand & a more consistent grip .

This I`ve grown so accustomed to that when I install a "GRIPPIER" grip I can`t move the sites enuff to get poi to poa.

& yes I to have a cabinet with a shelf of grips & holsters also !!
 
Quote:
"Concealability is overrated. Don't worry about it. Unless you're a supermodel or on fire, no one will give you a 2nd look."

I like that.
 
You can shape rubber Hogues

I you want to experiment with stocks. I sanded the palm swells and most of the finger groves off my Hogues. I have small fingers and this really helped.
I couldn't bring myself to hack up the JM stocks.
Ended up with less felt recoil and a smooth grip that I can readjust while drawing or reloading.
If your hand is around them, know one looks at your stocks.
 
As others have said, shoot your new 625JM with the original JM grips for a bit before writing them off. I have tried many different wood grips in the 5+ years I've had my 625JM - but always come back to the JM style that came with it. I like the Ahrends 'Retro Targets' in cocobolo that I bought for my 627 Pro probably in a close second place to the JM's for the 625JM. They are a definite first place choice for the 627 Pro, further proof that every application is different. Below are the two revolvers:

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The HiViz/SDM fiber optic front sights on both above are the .250" tall for a Classic/DX - the style of spring-loaded front sight base that comes on both of the above revolvers is a Godsend, allowing tool-less sight changes in seconds - often with little, if any, needed rear sight elevation compensation needed. Brownell's has the above sight, as well as that nutdriver-style demooner, which is worth it's weight in gold when you strip those cases from the moonclips. BTW, extra clips come in handy:

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Ranch Products (Google them for latest phone number.) makes the moonclips that came with your 625JM. They are a bit cheaper when bought directly from them - they were $35/100 shipped. They load/unload Remington cases fairly easily - but Starline brass is the easiest. If you reload, buy some Starline brass for your revolver - they will stay 'nice', as they won't get extraction/ejection scratches/nicks - or footprints - on them, like those cast asunder by a bottom-feeder.

First order of business with your new 625JM will involve a thin strip of fine Emery cloth. Take the edges off that grooved trigger - else, it will take DNA samples every time you pull it! Seriously, a grooved trigger may keep your fingertip pad from slipping, but the slickness of your blood there doesn't help. My only complaint. Oh - and clean under the ejector star - watch for cotton swipe threads and carbon buildup at the axle/star juncture. Enjoy your new frugal big bore revolver!

Stainz
 
Holy smokes.
Forgive my not cussing as I sound and feel more like Opie Griffith but I have already had my butt handed to me today for steering someone to a gun they were looking for, privately with a smile, I hope to figure that out. I always try to help people when I know someon is looking for something and I remember, I try to look out for brother gun guys. My Bad, back to tip toes.


That and the other post meant a lot, that last one, Stanza, brother you just blew my mind.
I had hear about the trigger some, and just feeling it the other day I thought it felt like it would be rough after a while, he shoots competition style maybe with gloves but your right, that would be rough just range shooting.
The site being easy to change was a huge draw for me, the advice all of you gave me on the demooners is going to save me a lot of grief, my FFL doesn't know exactly how they work I see so the advice with those is hugely appreciated.

I am impressed, I mean really impressed by the way this forum runs, and how much knowledge people will share with a new guy.

I am a big time 1911 nut, so I know a little about grip addiction, I sometimes end up back on the stock grips as well. But I am also guilty of have a "holster drawer" a "mag drawer" and just a smithing tool/cleaning drawer. It's fun but you do have to experiment a bit to find that perfect thing, I get that and it makes very good logic to give it a good couple 100 rounds with grips, which are darker on your Stainz, and your 2nd photo, till I can get a photo of my very own is my desktop for the weekend

Peace, thanks, and I think I just found the best advice in one place and treated well even asking what might be newbie stuff. I think you guys are awesome and I look forward to learning one day adding to the forum.

peace

ernie
 
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