FYI Schrade SCHF9 36.09 & FREE Shipping

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Be warned that there are reports of the handle screws rusting. Easily addressed early on by removing them and painting to prevent rust.
 
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"Schrade SCHF9 Extreme Survival Knife with Fixed 1095 High Carbon Steel Blade and Black Kraton Handle and Sheath"
Previous estimated arrival date: September 06, 2013 - October 21, 2013
New estimated arrival date: August 19, 2013 - August 22, 2013
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That handle looks like it'd be a bit uncomfortable for any survival-related tasks.
 
Sticky rubbery grips are a problem with extended use. They tend to cause hot spots and blisters. Kraton is great for short term use when conditions are wet, but they're a negative with extended sessions.
 
get real quality piece like G. Sakai 'Sabi' knife.
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I just looked those up. There aren't many sources for US buyers, but they look really nice. The fact that they're medium - large H1 steel fixed blades for under $100 looks like a great value. Thanks for the heads up.

Regarding the knife in the OP, for the same money I'd rather give up the 1095 carbon steel to gain micarta handle scales and get a Schrade F3 or F10 for about the same price if you want to stay within the brand. Better yet, one could get a US made Buck 622 Endeavor / 822 Sentry for roughly the same price. I wouldn't overlook the knives from Ontario's US made military issue or Spec Plus lines either if you're looking for a value fixed blade.
 
I'm beginning to wonder if these would make good project knives since the grips come off.

Yank the grips, file/grind the tang to a more practical shape, cord wrap or make micarta grips to fit.

I'd like to see if the 1095 was properly heat treated before spending the time/money, though.
 
Classic tests are with a file and brass rod.

Although, it's always nice to have a Rockwell Hardness tester laying around just to have quantitative results.;)
 
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1008857-BK2-Vs-Shrade-SCHF9!!/page2

The back story behind the SCHF9 design is that I am a major fan of the old Schrades and Old Timers. I have an old 185OT Woodsman that was my favorite knife when I bought my first one over thirty years ago. I bought one of the new hollow handled Schrades and put it through hell and did a review. There was soooo much flack over it being a near copy of the CRK Project I (which I've never owned and had never seen) that I was talking to Morgan Taylor and mentioned them actually designing a knife of their own that would really stand up to the "Extreme Survival" they were writing on the blades of their Extreme Survival line. Because a lot of the knives in that line were very very similar to other designs on the market and in my opinion the 420J steel they were using in some of them wouldn't hold up to extremes. He asked me what knife I'd design for an extreme survival situation in a wilderness environment. I sent him a sketch of the knife that later became the SCHF9 as an example of what I would want in that situation. A knife design that built heavy enough that it could handle abuse, with multi-position grip for versatility, and a blade geometry that worked fairly well for both slicing and chopping...as well as sticking if needs be. He liked the design and offered to buy it immediately and pay me to design a few more. BUT I was so adamant about the 1095 steel and it not being made in main land China, factors which apparently significantly raised production costs, that the other designs were put off till a future date.

They stayed true to the design drawings, which that grind may not have been easy. So far all of them I have handled have come with a sharp edge, and the heat treat of all I have tested has done pretty well. I asked for an RC no higher than 57 and no lower than 55...shooting for 56...so it could easily be maintained using a stone in a wilderness environment. I've seen one review where the reviewer inadvertently stabbed and chopped the knife into the rock he was using for a chopping block with little deformation of the steel.

Would it be a better knife if made by Ka-Bar? Duh, obviously. Are there going to be bad ones out there, of course it's mass produced in high quantities. Even Ka-Bar with their high QC standards has experienced inclusions.
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That last post says it all - a mass produced for the wannabe market.

Looks like one of the clunkers military personnel are issued with.
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Actually, the military doesn't issue many knives at all, and certainly not in bushel baskets to all and sundry. Most issue knives are MOS related, and the few issued to combat troops - less than 10% of the forces anyway - are carefully controlled because boys will be boys.

Check the NSN lists, plenty of Benchmades are on it, along with lots of other higher end knives. Again, tho, not many get passed out to the troops, and when they do, they sign for them. About the only edged weapon training for troops is the bayonet. I handled one maybe five times in 22 years.

However, I carried a good 4" locking folder or fixed blade most of the time, and few of us did. The primary weapon is the M16 and there wasn't much need for anything else.

"Military knives" is mostly BS. The military buys civilian knives for the few who need them.
 
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