Gangster Style Shooting?

[azhunter122]

I always see how gangsters shoot sideways and what not and have always wanered if that would create a stovepipe, and also what way would the recoil go? Anybody ever tried this?

 

[Eric F]

oh come on...........

recoil goes back and side ways bullet still drops down.

 

[Treo]

I saw some idiot try it W/ 6 shooter once. his arm went straigt up

 

[Harley Quinn]

I'll go and give it a good test for you today, give me something to do... I'll shoot 22's, 9mm, 357Sig, 40cal, 45acp, 400corbon and 10mm out of Glocks
I have a 22A S&W I have been shooting recently be a good test...Gangbanger style, yea... do I have to wear my pants low also LOL I have a pair of painter pants that are big enough to go over my normal wear I'll use some suspenders LOL

No pics will be with it, just commentary, I'll do it with one hand and two hand holds, Left and right handed should take about 3 hours to complete Very scientific

 

[Crunker1337]

The reason they do it so that, when rapidly firing, the spray of the bullets is horizontal rather than vertical. If you can't aim, it puts more enemies, and innocents, in harm's way.

 

[elvis christ]

I heard that they use to hold the gun sideways because a lot of cheap ass pistols will pop you in the head with the shell casing if you hold it correctly. Now I think it's just a matter of attempting to look cool.

Have you ever seen one hold it sideways and turn their head in the opposite direction of fire? Great idea, jackass.

 

[revjen45]

And all this time I figured it it was because they thought it looked cool....

 

[FieroCDSP]

The reason they do it so that, when rapidly firing, the spray of the bullets is horizontal rather than vertical. If you can't aim, it puts more enemies, and innocents, in harm's way.

you know, this is the first possibly legitimate reason for this method. How many of them do you think actually have thought of this?

 

[Aran]

I actually just tried that at the range yesterday.

Oddly enough, my most dead-on in the center shots were like that.

 

[JoseM]

I heard it was first done in Lethal Weapon I when the bad guys were tired of getting popped in the face. The actors changed grip and then all is history. Since hearing this explanation though, I haven't seen the original Lethal Weapon movie again to see if the bad guys were doing this.

 

[Don Lu]

its not done for any tactical reason...its just a cool thing. The first time you pick up a gun you automatically emulate what you have seen. their are exceptions that are becoming norms like gangs are now full of military or ex military personel, many of which have actual combat experience. they are training young gangsters in the correct ways of combat. but "gangster style" shooting is done just because those doing it may not know any better..but please believe that is changing.

 

[SCKimberFan]

I actually just tried that at the range yesterday.

Oddly enough, my most dead-on in the center shots were like that.

If anyone is buying this, I've got some oceanfront property in Iowa for sale.

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

Maybe it's to get Tec-9s and Mac-10s with long mags in and out of the car window without hanging up on the door frame.

 

[Don Lu]

you actually can shoot acuratley that way if you use the sights..you can hold gun upside down ...hold it backwards over your should and use a mirror...as long as you use sights you can hit bullseyes all day

 

[Eric F]

you actually can shoot acuratley that way if you use the sights..you can hold gun upside down ...hold it backwards over your should and use a mirror...as long as you use sights you can hit bullseyes all day
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This is only true if your sights can be adjusted to be on target this way.

Also this is about the least useful thread I have come across in a long time..........IBTL!

 

[Crunker1337]

you know, this is the first possibly legitimate reason for this method. How many of them do you think actually have thought of this?

I doubt many have. I'm sure that the VAST majority just emulate what they see other gangbangers do. And let's face it, if it actually means that they shoot more of their enemies, they're gonna keep doing it.
Now, of course, if gangsters actually took the time and effort to go to ranges and practice (I doubt that they'd be welcome at any, though), they'd probably shoot up and down, so to speak. But they don't, so, by default, they use the deadliest tactic available, and shoot sideways.

 

[Scattergun Bob]

There Actually is a reason for this!

The origin of this was in Israel, the browning hi-powers that were issued during the late 60's were carried hammer down on a empty chamber. the skill set was to draw out the pistol, cant the the pistol 45 degrees, use your left hand to charge the pistol, accelerate the pistol straight out in front of your eyes and engage. It is a very effective way to get a pistol in this condition into combat.

What we now see on the T.V. and videos is a "well" someones idea of this skill.

Good Luck & Be Safe

 

[Vern Humphrey]

I'm trying to spread a fad amongst the gang-bangers that the really cool way to shoot is to look into the little hole and press on the trigger.

 

[elsullo]

True Story

This is a true story from Portland Oregon. About ten years ago some young gangsters tried to do a driveby shooting at a house on the LEFT side of the street. The passenger held his right arm out his window and held the gun sideways to shoot left over the roof of his car.

He managed to shoot through the roof of the car and kill the driver, his cousin.

Instant Karma is gonna get you.....................elsullo

 

[.cheese.]

I tried it once out of curiosity to see if there was something the gangbangers had figured out that we hadn't....... nope..... it's extremely unpleasant and doesn't seem to accomplish anything. The angle is just wrong and I'm guessing it's bad for your wrist. One shot was enough for me..... forever.

This was relatively recently too at a range.

 

[JohnBlaze]

where are you getting that gangbangers shoot this way? TV?

I grew up in a rough place, and most REAL gangbangers I'd see shooting shoot like you or I would, with a 2 hand grip and aiming.

Keep believing what you learned on TV.

 

[6_gunner]

The reason they do it so that, when rapidly firing, the spray of the bullets is horizontal rather than vertical. If you can't aim, it puts more enemies, and innocents, in harm's way.

I've heard that, too. I read somewhere that the practice began way back with the full auto version of the Mauser Broomhandle. Since the gun was difficult to control, holding it sideways created a horizontal sweep. I believe that there was a reference to this practice in the video game "Metal Gear Solid: Snakeater."

My guess is that people decided that it looked cool and copied it without knowing that it actually had a purpose.

 

[Don Lu]

"This is only true if your sights can be adjusted to be on target this way."

this is not true...you can hold gun gangsta style and upside down and if you use sights you will hit with no adjustment to sights...I don't know the specifics with using miror over shoulder.

 

[Scattergun Bob]

Don

You are absolutely CORRECT. It does not matter up, down, or sideways, sight picture and alignment are the same.

As a side note, shooting with the aid of a mirror, the sight adjustment is directly reversed. That is according to the GREAT ONE Ed McGivern.

 

[VegasOPM]

There are two legitimate reasons to cant the sidearm that I am aware of. PO's are often trained to cant the gun while holding a riot shield. I have also been trained to cant the gun at a 45 degree angle while weak hand shooting as it puts the bones and muscles of the arm in a more natural position as well as allowing a front sight focus with the dominant eye without turning the head.

Aran,
If indeed you made better hits this way, I would suggest that you are flinching or anticipating recoil and putting your rounds low. Rotating the gun can sometimes minimize this tendency- but it is not the way to fix the problem.