Gangster Style Shooting?

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if your bullet drops 5 inched at 25 yards(for example) and you adjust the sights for this to zero at 25 yards then you turn the gun side ways(tilt to the left) and shoot You should be now shooting to the left off target and the bullet should be shooting low as before. So how is
this is not true...you can hold gun gangsta style and upside down and if you use sights you will hit with no adjustment to sights...I don't know the specifics with using miror over shoulder.
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going to work? Bullet drop corections up and down do not stay the same sideways, you cant argue physics.
 
For real "combat" or even defensive pistol shooting, who is engaging with a handgun at 25yds? I think at more realistic ranges, like 7-10yds, maybe up to 15 (thats about the limit I would try to engage) bullet drop would be less and you could probably hit the target. Also, we're not talking competition target pistols; we're talking stuff that generally has fixed sights.
 
who is engaging with a handgun at 25yds?
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Not that I really care to run this off into thread drift but my 1911 is sighted in for 25 yards so therefore I would engage at 25 yards if I could. Closer is better...or well maybe not.......either way it all on how you train and practice. My gun shoots relatively flat out to 25 yards a little high at 10 yards and even at 5 yards. again its all on what your use too............back to our regularly scheduled topic...........

U be needin these:
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I knew that would be turning up sooner or later
 
Also, I always heard that with a jennings the gravity helps the weak magazine springs load the gun.

that answer is what I heard, but it is BS i think.

Most of the REAL gangbangers, and not the "posers" actually shoot properly.
 
If you want to shoot gangster style do it the right way and wear a pin striped suit and a fedora. Oh, and call the weapon a "heater".

That way you'll be old school cool retro.
 
I dont honestly think that most of them thought about it. I think they just shoot like that due to the fact that they were never trained.
 
I read this...

I read this all the way through, and I cannot believe that I did not see THE REAL ANSWER here. :banghead:

The REAL ANSWER as to why the gangbangers hold their pistols sideways is...


...THAT IS THE WAY THE COME OUT OF THE BOX. DUH!!!

:neener::neener::neener:

The Doc is out now. :cool:
 
Many of the gang movies I have seen have shown the shooter not only holding the gun at an angle side-to-side, they also have their shooting arm pointed up and the wrist broken with the gun pointing down - while maintaining that side-to-side cant.

It is just intended to look "tough". And for those that think real gang bangers don't shoot that way, I disagree. Much of what we see as gang behavior comes from emulating TV and trying to out do what they see on TV. Heck, I've even heard that Hill Street Blues inspired more NYPD speech, slang, style, and behavior than it copied. What's on TV counts.
 
I heard it came from the time of old flintlock pistols. Tilting to the side to make sure the powder didn't fall out of the pan. How the concept made it into the 'hood I don't know. Possibly via Sicily.
 
THere are some pretty silly comments here claiming accuracy with pistol turned sideways.

To offset the bullet drop due to gravity, all firearms have the barrel canted up slightly, so that you are always shooting "uphill".

If you turn your firearm sideways, your barrel is now tipped to the left(if you shoot right handed), and there is nothing to offset the bullet drop due to gravity. So you will now be hitting low and to the left of the point where your sights line up on.

There's no accuracy when the pistol is turned sideways.
 
Since when were gangsters accurate in the first place?

I stand by what I said: when multiple shots are fired, it makes more sense for untrained gangbangers to fire sideways, as it puts more enemies in danger.
 
I heard it came from the time of old flintlock pistols. Tilting to the side to make sure the powder didn't fall out of the pan. How the concept made it into the 'hood I don't know. Possibly via Sicily.
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The Irish should be considered also... They have been known to tip a few.

:D
 
Bullet drop corections up and down do not stay the same sideways, you cant argue physics.
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I cannot pretend to be a physics major..the only thing that I DO know is that, I have tried it at 7 & 10 yrds (did not try 25 yrd) and the results show that you will hit your target by lining up the sights in that position. Im not implying that "gangsters" use the sights or use this argument, Im just stating what I know to be true..I didnt want to get off the topic of the thread, but I speak from experience not from puttting numbers and angles mixed with rate of drop.
 
Many of the gang movies I have seen have shown the shooter not only holding the gun at an angle side-to-side, they also have their shooting arm pointed up and the wrist broken with the gun pointing down - while maintaining that side-to-side cant.
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That's from learning to shoot out of a sun roof.
 
Hell, we already have Cowboy Action Shooting, why don't they set up an official Gangster Action Shooting competition?
 
I always heard the reason they hold it that way is...
that's the way they come from the factory (in the box). :D
 
IMHO has nothing to do with any actual gangsters, most of whom don't have a clue how to shoot and copy it from the movies. The technique was developed by film directors as a way of showing more of the actor's face while getting the firearm in the shot. Held properly, the chin and mouth are obscured, but if you flip the pistol sideways the whole face is visible, framed by the pistol. There was an article about this reprinted in Gun Digest some years back IIRC. I'll poke around for it.

We all know it screws up aiming, causes jams and accomplishes nothing for a real shooter.
 
I think that the original reason for doing this was to make the bullet strike down and to the inside of where the gun is. I've seen pictures of duels, specifically the o'connel-d'esterre duel, where people were doing this (the powder will stay in the pan just fine with the piece in an upright position; it's made for that) and read about it. So it's maybe a point-shooting technique for getting a quick COM shot when you're facing your opponent at about ten paces (20-25 feet).

fwiw, d'esterre missed his point shot and o'connel took a nice leisurely aim and shot him.
 
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