Gas Piston 6.8 Upper info???

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I have a S&W M&P 223/556 ar 15. I was thinking about changing things up and attaching a 6.8 upper to it. From what I understand this is very feasible.

In addition, I want the 6.8 upper to be gas piston operated.

So my question is, can I attach a gas piston 6.8 upper with my m&p 15 lower?

If so, what are some good manufacturers that make a 6.8 gas piston upper?

Much thanks in advance!
 
Barret, LWRC and CMMG come to mind. Won't be cheap. There are much more affordable DI offerings from AR Performance and Bison armory. Also keep in mind you will need all new mags for the 6.8.

Oh and make sure whatever you get is SPC II chambered.

No offense and I don't know your financial situation but unless you have money to blow on pricey 6.8 ammo I don't see the point of a piston on a oddball caliber like that. Even then as we all know the DI system is just fine especially the mid length for the 6.8.

Good luck and check out 68forums.com
 
Yep, need mags though. Maybe a little tinkering with buffer weights but that most likely will not be neccessary. Oh I forgot I seen Ruger selling just the 6.8 upper on MidwayUSA.
 
Generally speaking AR uppers and lowers are designed to mix and match. Any standard upper SHOULD fit on any standard lower. You might have to change out the buffer spring of course depending on what you get.

I think Bravo Company and DelTon also offer uppers in 6.8. In fact, I think most major AR manufacturers do.

Any particular reason you want a piston system instead of the regular DI system?
 
Wouldn't say any less reliable or durable. They run cooler/cleaner as most pistons vent gases at the front sight block as opposed to back at the bolt carrier group. I have an LWRC M6A2 - I don't reload and rounds are about a buck a piece using SSA ammo. 6.8 - wouldn't say it's really an oddball round as several manufacturers make ammo for it - not as prolific as 5.56 but wouldn't say oddball. Better terminal ballistics down range and accepted in more states for hunting.
 
Ammo isn't pricey when you compared apples to apples. 6.8 is NOT military surplus, so, compared to other commercial hunting rounds, it's the same. I recently bought 6.8SPC Remington 115g OTM at Academy, $17.99 a box. .30-30 Leverevolution I got two years ago was $24.99. No, 6.8 is not pricey. Milsurp and import is cheap, is all. Some folks don't have a good perspective on it; none of the other alternate calibers like 6.5G, .458 SOCOM are cheap, either. And they aren't surplus, either.

Pricey is simply BS.

Piston conversions only run about 40 degress cooler in the bolt carrier, and even DI guns can shoot a mag of ammo, shotgun, and handle the BCG barehanded. It's done all the time in the military. "Cooler" is very relative, shoot a mag of ammo and grab the piston cylinder on a conversion, or rather, measure it, about 500* soaking hot.

Basically a piston conversion disables the one in the bolt carrier and add another on the barrel, which is gerrymandering the design for no known benefit. It simply moves the heat and collects it under your support hand, adds dead weight, and still has to be cleaned as much as a DI gun - which is NOT AT ALL.

Really, just keep it lubed and wipe it down after shooting. Scraping the parkerizing off the parts isn't necessary. Having been in the military 22 years, the "clean room" standard is a deliberate time waster perpetuated by the older carbon steel framed and wood stocked guns that rusted sitting in the armory because corrosive primers were used. If anything, the Army is about tradition. We only change things because troops get killed otherwise.

ARP makes the industry leading 6.8SPC uppers and barrels. Others offer similar products, and the 6.8forums can answer most questions about them before you even know to ask.
 
The general consesus these days is that piston uppers are not worth the extra cost. This has shown to be true in the few that I have experience with. Carrier tilt is a problem that I know requires many users to replace their buffer tube after only 5000 rounds. Not that you will be shooting that much 6.8 but there really isn't a reason to be wearing on your gun when you don't need to. Also, many 6.8 users have issues with pressure that requires them to use different buffers to slow down the carrier. I can only imagine a piston system would frustrate this a little. My buddy has a sr556 and he is constantly having to adjust his gas block for different types of ammo that he is using. I would prefer to just use the same setting for everything and not worry about it when it comes time to pull the trigger. Also, it is important to note that ruger is still using the original SPC chamber and that is BAD. I love ruger as far as 10/22s and bolt actions go but I would not buy anything that they make that shoots 6.8 spc.
 
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