Gen. 5 - G17/G19

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I was at my local gun shop today. After an hour of shooting, I went downstairs to B/S with the guys. Fondled the new Gen. 5's. Really very nice guns. The new finish is pretty and looks to be more durable. The grip is a 100% improvement over the finger grooves. The trigger was also better, much crisper than prior models. They were priced at $599 with standard sights and $30 bucks more for night sights. Comes with three mags and a speed loader. Quite a nice gun!

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I never held a Gen 1
I hate the Gen 2 and Gen 3
I can tolerate the Gen 4
I might actually like the Gen 5

Feels better in the hand, the trigger feels improved, the grip angle doesn't perceive as "angled", and I like no finger grooves.
 
I handled one the other day. I'm not sold. All gen 1-3 Glocks are a set of sights from Brownell's and a pack of sandpaper and a soldering iron away from having the improvements you listed.
 
I handled one the other day. I'm not sold. All gen 1-3 Glocks are a set of sights from Brownell's and a pack of sandpaper and a soldering iron away from having the improvements you listed.

As much as I agree with you, I never understood the concept of "hacking" at a $500ish gun in light of new improvements and development. Then again, I don't like hacking away at my Jeep and my brother loves doing it to his...
 
As much as I agree with you, I never understood the concept of "hacking" at a $500ish gun in light of new improvements and development. Then again, I don't like hacking away at my Jeep and my brother loves doing it to his...
Its what I do. My favorite is my 19L- a 17 with the frame trimmed to make it more compact and accept 19 mags, but with the longer barrel/slide of the 17.
 
As much as I agree with you, I never understood the concept of "hacking" at a $500ish gun in light of new improvements and development. Then again, I don't like hacking away at my Jeep and my brother loves doing it to his...

Well Glock, after five generations, still hasn't produced a perfect pistol. You're free to keep your gun stock all you want, or mod it to your hearts content.
 
Have they finally done something about the lame plastic sights? Looks like not from the photos, but I can't be sure.
 
I think every pistol should come with lame plastic sights. Saves me money, time, and effort replacing them.

Gun companies rarely put quality sights sights on a pistol, because their customer base has no idea what quality sights are. So we get stuck with poor obsolete 3 dot steel sights that can be a pain to press out. If they aren't going to put proper sights on a pistol, I'll take the plastic ones, or empty dovetails.

Heck, the FBI even spec'd dismal steel sights. They actually wanted them.
 
Gun companies rarely put quality sights sights on a pistol, because their customer base has no idea what quality sights are.
I disagree the "inexpensive" RIA Tactical comes with Novak's (or a clone) and the Taurus PT-1911 comes with Heine (or a clone). These are good sights. The M&P has good sights, as do the Sigs, XDs & H&K to name but a few.

I do believe the rear should be plain black so I paint any dots, bars, U's etc. black. But for these old eyeballs it pretty moot now, as I've mostly moved to red dot optics as without "reading glasses" my iron sight shooting is little better than "I fart in your general direction" :)
 
Have they finally done something about the lame plastic sights?

your kidding right???? that will never happen till people stop paying for them.

I have zero interest in adding yet another generation that is not compatible with previous gens.
most of my Glocks would likely be considered gen10-20 as the only thing I leave stock is the frame and slide. They will outperform these gen5 guns, no doubt.
 
I do sorely wish they'd have done away with those plastic sights and at least put the metals on there, or heck a new sight picture one.

I've broken the plastic (rear) sights as well, so don't feed me that line that the plastic sights are just as good etc. They are NOT.
 
Take the slide off the gen5, put a G43 frame next to it, looks the same in design.
So the new gen5 is basically a G43 on steroids...lol, Sheeeez who knew that the G43 would finally wake up the rest of the glock engineers.
The G43 is the only latest NEW innovation from glock, since the late 80`s when the glocks came out... the G5, just another fanboy toy.

I own a bunch of glocks, but i`m NOT a glock fanboy. So, i shot the new gen5, i surely wasnt all warm and fuzzy about it. It didnt do anything different than the glocks i already own. One thing i totally did NOT like, was that half moon opening in the lower front edge of the frame. It was VERY annoying for me to shoot with that there. Glock didnt even bother to chamfer it, so be VERY cautious handling the gun, it WILL slice you open. Nice going glock...NOT. The NEW mag well incorporated into the frame... this design made the grip feel fatter to me... maybe it was just me, i dont know.

The mags did NOT fall from the gun very well either (common with most glocks). Two of the mags i had to actually pull them from the gun to get them out. Elcheapo plastic sights...yes, theres some perfection for yah. The trigger wasn`t bad, BUT, it wasnt anything to really brag about either. The slide looked like it had been painted with cheap black walmart paint... did show blemish`s in the light. Brass ejection was erratic...nothing new there, but i was hopeing glock would have done some better engineering in that area. Overall, the gun worked, but thats what you expect it to do. I`m sure the heck not interested in buying a gen5. Until glock brings something NEW to the table, (not some revamped old design) i wont waste my time going back to look into the gen5. It dosen`t do anything different than the last 4 generations, except cost alot more today than previous gen`s.

One thing that i was glad to see, they got rid of that worthless polygonal barrel. Glock says the new G5 barrel is a MATCH barrel, that remains to be seen... in my opinion, nah, looks pretty standard, and the accuracy was on par with most any decent factory land an groove barrel in the same class. I didnt see much of a change with chamber/case support, but i didnt have anything with me to take some measurements with either. Exact same recoil spring assembly as the gen4`s.

The G5 will sell, but it isnt going to set the world on fire like people are thinking it will, exception to the hardcore fanboy`s. Many people i had chatted with after shooting it, nobody was crying unicorn tears with overjoy about it. Everyone agreed in all that had shot it, that YUP its just another glock.

Anyhow, i hope i didnt hurt any of the fanboy feelings here... i just wanted to offer my own opinion on what i thought after shooting the G5.
I`ll keep the glocks i already have, as i said, the G5 isnt nothing fuzzy & warm for me.
 
Glock, specializing in taking baby steps in design since the 1980's. They really buy into the "if it ain't broke then don't fix it" saying, maybe a little too much. Let's face it, glock wouldn't be glock if they did it any different. Maybe by the time the gen10 hits the market the perfect factory glock will finally exist and all the whiners will finally be happy. Until then glock continues to be the worlds most trusted and hated pistol. Glock on everybody!
 
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LOL... by the time glock comes out with the Gen10, other companies will then be light years ahead of glock. I dont hate glocks, as i do carry a G43 for backup, i`m just not the fanboy that some people are about them. One thing most seem to not think about, standard glocks are not target guns, they are combat guns... thats what their main purpose was for. Its like anything else in the world, its all about my daddy can beat your daddy. Childish if you want my opinion on the subject. Personally, i think there are some really nice choices out there today, and thats awesome...!!! Glock`s fame is just that... they hit the market when nobody else was doing what they were doing... does it make them king...???, sure it does, they sold alot of them over the years. But now glock isnt the ONLY gun out there doing what they`re doing. Now we have choice`s, and some really really good ones.

I dont love glocks, but i dont hate them either... i`m just not one of those kinds of people that will sit here and tell you that if you dont own a glock that you ain`t sh-t. I dont bash one any worse than another... there`s good and bad no matter what the name is on the gun. (or trucks for that matter...lol). I try to give an honest opinion on how it looked/worked/performed, for me. Try not to hate me for that.
 
Another thing that made the G5 a KNOWN rush to get it to market, was that ugly mistake they made between the front of the frame and the slide... they should have blended that area. Huge dumbdumb on glock... that just proves they rushed this gun to the market. Actually, they had to, they thought they were gonna win the military contract, now they`re sitting on all this inventory. Shame shame... the greed is showing.
 
Glock has done more testing on the Gen5's than any other models. I'm basically a Sig guy, but Glocks are like a fine wine, they get better with age.
Where did glock get better, i missed that memo...lol. Not bashing, but out of all the handguns i`ve owned, my glocks had ALOTTA issues until i fixed them.
I`m with yah on the SIG`s, they are among the most accurate & trouble free combat/LEO guns i`ve ever owned and shot.
 
A plastic pistol is a bit of a stretch. A polymer is a form of plastic but the half-life is 10 times greater than steel. Burry one next to steel and check it out in 100 years!
 
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Oh yes, I forgot, for such a substandard handgun, I'm surprised the new Gen5 was selected as the standard carry gun by the US Navy Seals and the FBI.
 
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Oh yes, I forgot, for such a substandard handgun, I'm surprised the new Gen5 was selected as the standard carry gun by the US Navy Seals and the FBI.
LOL... actually, the govt above them decides what gets chosen, seens how they control the checkbook, and not the seals or the fbi.
Contracts get submitted, then the govt decides who gets what. Glock went in the hole in the seal/fbi contract.
 
A plastic pistol is a bit of a stretch. A polymer is a form of plastic but the half-life is 10 times greater than steel. Burry one next to steel and check it out in 100 years!
Well, your close my friend, but neither one is going to work, because BOTH contain metal components internally. So thats kinda weak. Your a fanboy, admit it...lol.
 
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