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Getting darn serious down on the border..

Discussion in 'Legal' started by bg, Feb 16, 2006.

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  1. bg

    bg Member

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    When you find out, let me know..
    If this doesn't sound like an Iraq terrorist op, what does ? Only
    thing missing was a bomber. We are going to end up in an
    out and out campaign-military action right down south ! >
    http://www.yahoo.com/s/273338

     
  2. Fly320s

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    I guess that those guys didn't receive their Sunday edition.:eek:
     
  3. Biker

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    It'll come this side of the border. No doubt. However, multiculturalism is always good and after all, they're only coming here to do the work that Americans won't do. Such as shooting up newspaper offices, building tunnels used to smuggle drugs and people into the US...
    Biker
     
  4. Maxwell

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    I can see why Mexicans are running like hell for the border, but sooner or later someones going to give chase from that side and run into our side.

    What do we do if theres no "war" but people are shooting at us with full auto weapons?
    Is it legal to shoot back, at what could possibly be the mexican military? :uhoh:
     
  5. Bigreno

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    Where would this NOT be legal? Yes you can engage anyone attempting to take your life. Foreign military receives no special privilages.

    Just know in doing so you will be in every news paper and your face will be on CNN for weeks to come. Oh, and the S will definitely HTF.
     
  6. Fletchette

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    What do we do? Shoot back! This has certain ramifications, of course. As long as Washington ignores this, it is de facto admission of secession of U.S. territory. Just as most of the north of Pakistan is not really Pakistan, most of our southern border will not be part of the U.S.

    The problem is not the honest immigrants (probably most of them); if I were in their shoes I'd do everything to get into the U.S. also! The problem is the globalists in Washington that do not mind losing U.S. territory under the premise that 'we are all citizens of the world'. :barf:

    And of course, re-establishing a slave-class is certainly going to help their stock's profitability.


    The solution is to put the military on the border and then establish a dozen "Ellis Islands" where immigrants can be legally admitted into the U.S. This isn't going to happen with the current power miesters (R or D).
     
  7. Janitor

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    Yes - as long as you don't mind being branded a racist and a vigilante.
     
  8. Standing Wolf

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    ¿Que? ¿Jorge has a plan, no?
     
  9. bearmgc

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    Geez, wonder if its hurting tourism...like I want to cross the border south for any reason.:cuss:
     
  10. 22-rimfire

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    Sounds like gang violence in Neuvo Laredo. Hope it stays on that side. I hear this is becoming more of a problem in a lot of the border cities. More reason to build a wall and man it with machine guns.
     
  11. Bartholomew Roberts

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    Gangs pretty much own Nuevo Laredo. However, I would worry more about when Nuevo Laredo gets quiet. That will be the sign that one gang has consolidated power there and is now ready to expand to new territory.
     
  12. Art Eatman

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    Folks in Mexico in the various neighborhoods in any city, know the names of who is doing what to whom, or who dunnit to somebody. No secrets. Too many people who are not at work, who are "just lookin'" out a window.

    Newspaper reporters know this, and a few of the braver souls put the complete stories together. That's dangerous to the Bad Guys if such information gets published, because it then gets some amount of Official Attention. So, intimidate the publisher/editor/reporters. Death or the threat of death.

    Not at all unusual, al otro la'o del Rio Bravo...

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  13. Merkin.Muffley

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    Step 1 - implement the Bush plan to give the 11-12 million of them here amesty.

    Step 2 - let them vote.
     
  14. CentralTexas

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    +1
     
  15. gunsmith

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    yup!

    Most Americans are just to lazy to spray the local newspaper lobby with machine gun fire...:evil:
    as far as jobs that we won't do they are paying 15 an hour in Napa county to grape pickers, who are all illegal, if your not an illegal you don't get the job.
    15 an hour tax free!
    that buys a whole lot in Mexico and even here in the USA it can go pretty far in some states
     
  16. Hawkmoon

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    Self-defense be self-defense. The law says if you are in fear for your life you are entitled to employ lethal force in self-defense. Dunno if TX, AZ and NM have "duty to retreat" laws on the books, but those usually stipulate that you mucy attempt to retreat if you can do so in safety. Since you likely can't do that if the other side has a Hummer-mounted ma deuce -- lock and load.
     
  17. Maxwell

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    I personaly think we're looking at the modern incarnation of slavery.
    These people come with nothing, work for a pittance, and cost their employers zero so far as insurance or benefits go.

    I dont blame the Mexicans so much as the greedy businessmen who tempt these people into this mess. Those employers are going to get hooked on the money, and thats helping to drive this lax policy.
    I also think that for an immigrant to do so much for so little, youve got a human disaster on thier side that we dont know enough about.

    Whatevers driving them out is bound to follow them north.

    I know that all hell will break loose if our civilians shoot on their military when its mercing itself out to the drug dealers, but will the law protect our people from being jailed over whats bound to be an international incident?
    What happens if it expands beyond a few shootings, and we still dont have an appropriate number of troops there?
     
  18. AStone

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    This is one reason I moved north from NM almost seven years ago.

    Not that it was this bad then, but the writing was already on the wall ...

    Nem
     
  19. El Tejon

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    Iraqi terrorist op?:confused: War?:confused: You guys really can't be serious?

    This is just another day on the border. Walter Mitty delusions to the contrary, there is no coming invasion.:rolleyes: The US-Mexico border has always been dangerous and will always be dangerous.
     
  20. Maxwell

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    Not all borders are dangerous.
    Its been a risky place to live because of a deterriorating nation to the south, a market for below minimal wage workers to the north, and a drug war throwing gasoline on the fire.

    Lets not forget theres other forces out there that would pay anything to see Americans come to harm, and there you have a mass of people willing to do anything for a buck... I dont think this situations going to smolder indefinatly.
     
  21. armoredman

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    The border has always been dangerous - i used to work right at the border for a while.
    It is getting worse, but there is no chance in Hades Mexico's Military could invade - the Texas State Guard alone could hold them off. We'll mobilize the Confederate Air Force, and a couple of VFW posts, and we'll be good....
     
  22. Bartholomew Roberts

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    Not to mention you'd threaten more American reporters spraying the corner bar than you would the local newspaper office
     
  23. V4Vendetta

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    This is one of the reasons I will NEVER go to Mexico. It might be pretty in some areas but I wouldn't want to go. Next to the drug operations down there, kidnapping is the number two illegal business. Someone is kidnapped every 30 minutes & the things they do to folks who won't pay or can't* pay, the MPAA won't let them show in our R rated films. I believe that says something in a culture where movies like "Saving Private Ryan", "The Godfather" & such are very gorey and yet they are very popular movies. One guy in Mexico, got both of his ears sliced off:what: . They were reattached later when he was rescued but you must know that the kidnappers didn't give him any morphine or such when they removed his ears.

    As far as the police are concerned, I'm reminded of a quote from "Key Largo". "Those who aren't bought are intimidated. Those who weren't intimidated were murdered." I read on www.crimelibrary.com once where one city in Mexico went without a sheriff for several months because no one wanted the job. One guy decided that he wasn't scared so he took the job. Just 6 hours later he was leaving the office to go home. They parked in front of him so he couldn't go anywhere & shot him over 200 times. The killers have yet to be arrested.:rolleyes:


    *That's me.
     
  24. mbs357

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    Stop the presses!
    :uhoh:
     
  25. TallPine

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    The city of Billings is advertising a senior accountant position at the airport ("CPA preferred") that only pays $15/hr :banghead:
     
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