GForce AR shotguns, how bad are they?
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Don’t know about the AR’s but the M2 clone gets pretty good reviews.
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CptnAwesome
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I've owned 4 semi auto shotguns made in Turkey, one of them being a bullpup. No issues out of any of em, so I would think those would be fine.
Hillbilly Hydrographics
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I don't have the gforce ar style shotty but do have a gforce bullpup 12 gauge with the AR style mags and semi auto. It did have a few failure to eject empty shells during break in. But I was also using what I had and didn't buy any high brass shells for it. They recommend 1300fps or more for break in. After about 100 rounds I haven't had any more issues regardless of shells. I also have a ria vrpf14 pump with the AR style mags and it hasn't had the first issue.
wally
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I've one of theTurkish bullpup shotguns and I love shooting it, problem is it fails to go into battery after about 100 rounds, which is typically two outings for me shooting steel plates with it. The gas piston is so fouled and gummed up that it won't fully go back into battery. I've tried a large assortment of different shotshells including the Turkish Sterling brand. Not ammo sensitive when clean, even 7/8 oz 20ga equivalent loads function fine when the gun is clean. But much over 100 rounds and it fails to fire because the bolt has not gone fully forward because of fouling of the gas piston and cup. Is this typical? It is a relative PITA to clean compared to most guns.
Here is a short video clip of me shooting steel plates with the BP12 and Saiga 12. I'm faster with the BP12, the slow-mo shows less muzzle flip and a more straight back recoil impulse.
https://youtu.be/zd_wO8UDbYc
The Saiga gas puck gums up eventually, but it takes a lot more rounds through it to cause issues, and is dramatically easier to clean.
Here is a set of three runs at the plate rack with the BP12 and no slow-mo.
https://youtu.be/ooHALtplDK8
Here is a short video clip of me shooting steel plates with the BP12 and Saiga 12. I'm faster with the BP12, the slow-mo shows less muzzle flip and a more straight back recoil impulse.
https://youtu.be/zd_wO8UDbYc
The Saiga gas puck gums up eventually, but it takes a lot more rounds through it to cause issues, and is dramatically easier to clean.
Here is a set of three runs at the plate rack with the BP12 and no slow-mo.
https://youtu.be/ooHALtplDK8
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The Last Outlaw
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Here is a good, reliable 12 gauge for just a little more. I have one of these, it’s a great gun.
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Mossberg Maverick 88 Security 12 Gauge Pump-Action Shotgun | Academy
Designed with a fixed choke, cylinder-bore barrel, the Mossberg Maverick 88 Security 12 Gauge Pump-Action Shotgun is designed with a 3" chamber that handles factory...
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Hillbilly Hydrographics
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The maverick 88 is a great shotgun specially at there price point. And the great thing is there mostly interchangeable with 500 parts which allows better customization. That's the big downside to all the cheaper turk shotties that's flooding the market these days. You can't really swap anything on them and if parts break good luck finding replacementsHere is a good, reliable 12 gauge for just a little more. I have one of these, it’s a great gun.
Mossberg Maverick 88 Security 12 Gauge Pump-Action Shotgun | Academy
Designed with a fixed choke, cylinder-bore barrel, the Mossberg Maverick 88 Security 12 Gauge Pump-Action Shotgun is designed with a 3" chamber that handles factory...
The Happy Kaboomer
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So bad I wouldn't take one home if you gave it to me.
Steve in NC
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No first hand experience to be fair. But here is what I've seen in 2 different shotgun classes and others had them in class.
Neither of them survived the first hr. and they were retired. the last class i think the guy got 2 or 3 rds down range with feeding/extracting issues. I don't know what ammo he was using but it was birdshot. So it may have been simply too light to cycle that action. Never got a chance to ask him about his ammo or other shooting experience with it.
Personally, a good pump gun (I love my 870's, but Mossy 500s and Mav 88's are very good also) with a tube extension is all that is really needed. And they are proven hands down reliable for any and all ammo.
Steve
Neither of them survived the first hr. and they were retired. the last class i think the guy got 2 or 3 rds down range with feeding/extracting issues. I don't know what ammo he was using but it was birdshot. So it may have been simply too light to cycle that action. Never got a chance to ask him about his ammo or other shooting experience with it.
Personally, a good pump gun (I love my 870's, but Mossy 500s and Mav 88's are very good also) with a tube extension is all that is really needed. And they are proven hands down reliable for any and all ammo.
Steve
dieselchief
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ar style shotguns are a blast to blow stuff up at a gravel pit/junkyard setting. they do tend to recoil different than traditional style guns.
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If I won one in a raffle, I would sell it immediately to someone I didn't like. None of the Turkish shotguns, regardless of name, have passed the TFB TV 500 round torture test so far. And that is a rather easy test for any half decent pump shotgun.
Ok, They are nice range toys! As for real work , NO! About 20 yrs ago, maybe less. The turkish Military needed a house to house breacher. So they came up with the MKA1919.... A newer series is still in use to this day. Since then many copies have been out there. If you want a serious combat shotgun, look into the older 1919s br99 series.... Others are for play...
