W.E.G.
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I hope the camera was on a tripod.
Otherwise, the cameraman is one lucky fella.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZEg6AoQJw8
Otherwise, the cameraman is one lucky fella.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZEg6AoQJw8
Girl shoots self in leg at range
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It probably all happened so fast that there wasn't sufficient time for anyone except her to react, which ended up in an unfortunate accident.
I know that I've had the hot brass experience more than once both while I was in the Marines and at local ranges; it just comes down to training and situational awareness. I have a new shooter (my wife) and she's pretty good about range safety, but I can see something like this happening if I didn't help her out with training -- Definitely going to take this lesson to heart.
orbitup
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During the shooting portion of my CHL class the woman next to me had the same problem and she almost swept all of us. I had her put her "Hello my name is ....." sticker over her cleavage to seal it up.
texas bulldog
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If anyone didn't go to the youtube link posted by W.E.G, it's worth a look. It's only a few seconds long. The soldier in that video did an admirable job of keeping his rifle pointed down range while dealing with hot brass down his shirt and pants. And the soldier behind him who had the presence of mind to grab his rifle did even better.
Clearly, you can train yourself for this sort of reaction.
Clearly, you can train yourself for this sort of reaction.
Bullnettles
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I have a scar on my lower back from a tucked in shirt plus a perfect ricochet of a .223 casing down the back of my shirt. OUCH, but finger off the trigger lady.
MachIVshooter
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Hope the gal's OK. I've watched many a shooter get real excited over that one. One gal actually ripped her shirt off. She dropped the gun on the stall table first. No one at the range was complaining........
There. Reactions can be conditioned. Reflexes cannot.
There. Reactions can be conditioned. Reflexes cannot.
AKElroy
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I had the exact same thing happen 15 years ago when qualifying for my CCW, and I kept on shooting the last two rounds. It left a mark that I still have; the soft skin under my eye stuck to the brass and went with it when I removed the casing. I just had to have that 5-50-250.
Joe Demko
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I had a .22 casing from another shooter land perfectly inside a crew neck tee-shirt just below my ear. Ouch. I won't claim any credit for self-control as I wasn't handling a gun at the time.
This is just another point of training for new shooters, and obviously very important.
It reminds me of when I was a weldor (and that's not a typo -- weldOR is the operator; weldER is the machine). Weld splatter and hot slag down the collar are no fun. The first time it happens, you drop the stinger and dance and cuss; the umpteenth time, you just sort of wriggle a little and keep running the bead.
Also another reason to wear a bandana.
It reminds me of when I was a weldor (and that's not a typo -- weldOR is the operator; weldER is the machine). Weld splatter and hot slag down the collar are no fun. The first time it happens, you drop the stinger and dance and cuss; the umpteenth time, you just sort of wriggle a little and keep running the bead.
Also another reason to wear a bandana.
Mule
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This apparently is a fairly common occurance. Four years ago while at the range an 18 y.o. styleishly dressed lady, shooting a .22 semi-auto handgun, dropped a .22 shell casing into her bra. A novice. She lost control and shot herself in the upper thigh. The bullet exited just above the knee. Fortunately, bone and arteries were missed. I do not wish to ever be involved in a similar incident again. A simple t-shirt could have prevented the mishap.
Keep em covered!
Keep em covered!
doc2rn
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Reminds me of the time the UH-60 let loose with one of the GE .30 cals overhead and dumped 'em right down the back lip on my ole Flak Jacket. Couple of my guys trained guns on him and he beat it out of the area with the urging of my LT on the Com Sat. Funny thing is he let loose about 800-1000 rds and didnt hit squat.
Yep. I was shooting with a girl who could have done that... to me.
Brass goes down her shirt, and she immediately turns to me to curse the injustice of the world. And her finger was on the trigger. In fact she had never released it, so she was pulling the trigger back all the way. I suppose that's safer, in a way. But it sure doesn't look right when the gun comes pointing your way.
She starts saying screaming as the gun drops behind the line and points back and to the right, towards my feet.
I hold one arm out in case she decides to lift the gun any higher, pointing with the other, yelling "Trigger! Trigger! TRIGGER!"
She pauses a split second to take her finger off the trigger, then continues crying about hot brass, as if either of us should have cared at that point. Oh, the humanity! :banghead:
Brass goes down her shirt, and she immediately turns to me to curse the injustice of the world. And her finger was on the trigger. In fact she had never released it, so she was pulling the trigger back all the way. I suppose that's safer, in a way. But it sure doesn't look right when the gun comes pointing your way.
She starts saying screaming as the gun drops behind the line and points back and to the right, towards my feet.
I hold one arm out in case she decides to lift the gun any higher, pointing with the other, yelling "Trigger! Trigger! TRIGGER!"
She pauses a split second to take her finger off the trigger, then continues crying about hot brass, as if either of us should have cared at that point. Oh, the humanity! :banghead:
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my fiance learned one day about tank tops and hot brass. at the time i had never seen it happen so i never even thought to warn her.
FWIW she made me extreamly proud that day; finger came off the trigger and her right arm extended fully with the gun pointed down range and she shook out her shirt with the left hand. not even for one second did she point the pistol anywhere but down range and she was very new to shooting. i asked if she was ok and we had a laugh about it, but i was glowing with pride on the inside!
i hope this girl will be ok and that this incident doesnt turn her off of shooting
FWIW she made me extreamly proud that day; finger came off the trigger and her right arm extended fully with the gun pointed down range and she shook out her shirt with the left hand. not even for one second did she point the pistol anywhere but down range and she was very new to shooting. i asked if she was ok and we had a laugh about it, but i was glowing with pride on the inside!
i hope this girl will be ok and that this incident doesnt turn her off of shooting
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I shoot revolvers with tank tops and flip flops and never worry about hot brass.
during a firearms class i attended recently i got some hot brass a few times.
firing prone from 25 yards, a piece of 9mm brass from the guy next to me managed to land behind the top of my ear and stick there. we were on the clock so there wasnt much i could do at the time. i finished my last two shots and gave my head a hard shake as i moved to the knealing position; problem solved.
after a couple days of taking brass in the face and neck while helping the instructor coach some of the new shooters, i started wearing underarmor under my regular shirt. let me tell ya that is the way to go! one day in particular i came home and un-tucked my shirt and 3 pieces of 9mm brass fell onto the floor, and i had never even felt them at all.
so dont forget:
1-eyes
2-ears
3-underarmor!
/\ not having to comb the grass for your spent brass is always a plus too!
firing prone from 25 yards, a piece of 9mm brass from the guy next to me managed to land behind the top of my ear and stick there. we were on the clock so there wasnt much i could do at the time. i finished my last two shots and gave my head a hard shake as i moved to the knealing position; problem solved.
after a couple days of taking brass in the face and neck while helping the instructor coach some of the new shooters, i started wearing underarmor under my regular shirt. let me tell ya that is the way to go! one day in particular i came home and un-tucked my shirt and 3 pieces of 9mm brass fell onto the floor, and i had never even felt them at all.
so dont forget:
1-eyes
2-ears
3-underarmor!
/\ not having to comb the grass for your spent brass is always a plus too!
Wardrobe is a critical element of safety at the range. The ladies love to wear open toed shoes and low cut tank tops to the range on a 95 degree day, but I won't allow it. I always require people I take with me to wear clothes that don't easily act as brass catchers.
I also second the suggestion to do the "Barney Fife" method, giving the new shooter only one round at a time.
I also second the suggestion to do the "Barney Fife" method, giving the new shooter only one round at a time.
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