Glenn Beck hates Ron Paul and doesn't think Fred Thompson is a good idea.

[Outlaws]

Well at least that is what I took from his show yesterday. He mocked Ron Paul as being the best the libitarian party can put on the table, then said Fred Thompson can't win against Osama-Obama's youth power.

So I don't know if a vast reform in the size of the .gov is just too much for Beck to handle, or if its just he honestly wants someone who can win out of fear of what happens if Obama or Hilary wins.

Either way, Glenn Beck needs to get off the Islamic fundamentalist gravy train because the only gravy left is lumpy and 5 years old and it doesn't look like anyone wants anymore of it anyways. I know I don't. Look, what it all boils down to, is that 911 was because we have all been brainwashed into "just stay calm and do what they say." I have a feeling that issue won't be an issue next time. So time to move on to something else....like the Trojan horse of government intrusion for "Nation Security".

 

[Biker]

Beck is pimping Giulliani because he stands the best chance of winning and Romney because he and Beck are both Mormon.

Biker

 

[Nil]

Do people really pay attention to what Glenn Beck says? I didn't know he was considered to be a serious political commentator.

BTW, the "Osama-Obama" name calling isn't very high road.

 

[xds&gsps]

I heard Glenn's show yesterday & didn't feel like he hated Ron Paul. He was making fun of him, but I think hate is too strong a word here. Did you hear Ron Paul's responses to some of the questions addressed to him in the debate? Pretty poor answers if you ask me. Just my .02 though.

 

[Son35]

I've read much of Glenn Beck on various boards and saw him yesterday for the first time...... seems like an A-hole. Maybe not as bid a hole as O'reilly but he just needs practice.

Son

 

[Titan6]

All MSM hates Paul. He has a tough row to hoe ahead of him. At some point they will begin to really ridicule him.

 

[Outlaws]

BTW, the "Osama-Obama" name calling isn't very high road.

Neither is preaching what is and isn't. But thanks. I am switching to Osamabama. We can call his hip crowd of young MTV supporters the Osamabama Youth.

Did you hear Ron Paul's responses to some of the questions addressed to him in the debate?

Yes, and they only one that was truly terrible was his response to a critical decision. I had that embarrassed feeling the whole time he was responding.

 

[HiroProX]

And I should care what Glenn Beck thinks for what reason exactly?

Ron Paul and Fred Thompson are my short list. Everyone else on the GOP side is a RINO or Quisling.

 

[camacho]

Glenn is missing one very important point here: Obama will not be running against any Republican because Obama will not get the nomination. Hillary will run over Obama like a 60 tons Abrams tank. I think the Democratic debate well illustrated it.

As to Fred Thompson, I believe he is wrong. Fred will be a very competitive candidate.

 

[Outlaws]

As to Fred Thompson, I believe he is wrong. Fred will be a very competitive candidate.

Against Hilary yes. But I actually can see part of the point with Thompsons age if it was somehow against Obama. Clinton was the the Obama in '92.

 

[Mike U.]

Do you think that when the fact that Obama is from a radical muslim family gets out, he'll actually stand a chance?
Unlike the "people" who elected him, I think by and large, the American public won't stand for someone like him in the White House. From what I've read, I believe his father is a radical islamic imam, aka, a mad mullah.

Naww, once the real mud-slinging begins, Obama is political dog meat. If his own party's other candidates don't make it known far and wide, then the republican candidates will make sure his radical islamic connection will be a topic of watercooler and soccer mom conversation from the Florida Keys to Arctic Alaska.

Of course, this is just my opinion and well worth the price you paid for it.

 

[grampster]

I didn't watch the so called debate. I did listen to a broadcast of some of the questions that were asked by the leftist press. I get the feeling that nobody put those guys in their place. Judging from the contents of some of the questions, the debate must have been between the candidates and the MSM drones.

 

[Nil]

Do you think that when the fact that Obama is from a radical muslim family gets out, he'll actually stand a chance?
Unlike the "people" who elected him, I think by and large, the American public won't stand for someone like him in the White House. From what I've read, I believe his father is a radical islamic imam, aka, a mad mullah.

Naww, once the real mud-slinging begins, Obama is political dog meat. If his own party's other candidates don't make it known far and wide, then the republican candidates will make sure his radical islamic connection will be a topic of watercooler and soccer mom conversation from the Florida Keys to Arctic Alaska.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

Your theories have been proven to be false.

 

[Don Gwinn]

Actually, Outlaws, he was right. The goofy names for politicians only make us look bad. Not High Road indeed.

On the other hand, members pointing out to other members when they've stepped off the High Road is one of the best things about this site--but it only works when people take the hint. Otherwise, moderators have to step in and make things clear.

Osama/Obama jokes are as funny as Hitlery, Bu****ler, and all the dozens of names for places some people don't like. Let's act like grownups and use our opponents' names, folks.

 

[orionengnr]

Reading what some of you guys post makes me believe that we really don't stand a chance. Just the small number of responses to the "who watched the debate" thread the other night was very revealing. FWIW:

1. Glen Beck does not "hate" Ron Paul or Fred Thompson, nor is he shilling for either Giuliani or Romney. He is being realistic. At this point, he is looking (as many of us are) for a viable, electable alternative to Hillary/Obama. At this point, Fred is undeclared, and Dr. Paul is a looooong way from electablity.

2. If you think Dr. Paul is our only chance, then send him some money, get him a speaking coach and keep his chances alive until the next debate. Then let's see him put something out there. If he cannot articulate his ideas and his vision, he is toast. The other night, he was toast. That's not Glen Beck's fault, that's Ron Paul's fault.

3. On a similar note, if we cannot field a strong candidate, that is not the Republican party's fault, Glen Beck's fault or the MSM's fault...that is our fault. Own it, deal with it, do something (other than bitch) about it.

 

[Titan6]

If he was ''toast'' why did he win the MSNBC poll? Why did ABC refuse to put his name out there on poll? I would like a real answer. Because I really want to know...

 

[longeyes]

There are no perfect outcomes for "our side" in the offing. Giuliani, with all his liabilities, appears to have the best chance of stopping the Hillary/Obama Express. The prudent course might be to shore up the political capital we have to make sure Giuliani has no way of indulging his worst hoplophobic impulses.

Personally I think the future probably lies with third and fourth parties. Duncan Hunter could--it's still early but from what I know at this point--be someone to rally around down the road.

 

[orionengnr]

If he was ''toast'' why did he win the MSNBC poll? Why did ABC refuse to put his name out there on poll? I would like a real answer. Because I really want to know...

Real answer:
I have no control over ABC or MSNBC, so what they do is largely immaterial.

Have you seen people on THR "hit" polls before? I have seen it, I participate and I've seen how quickly a poll can be rendered useless. Does that serve a purpose? Of course it does. Does it tell you anything meaningful? No, other than how easy it is to manipulate the poll.

Did you actually see the debate? While I would love to believe that he moved hearts and minds, his delivery was not persuasive or impressive to the average watcher. Sorry, but people like, and vote for, charismatic candidates. Remember Bill Cinton, anyone? If Dr. Paul wants a following like that, he needs a charisma infusion.

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

The Democrats have to win two of the following states: Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia or Florida. Which two of those states is going to go with Obama (or Hillary either for that matter)? If the Democrats want to run Obama or Hillary, they are only hurting themselves.

 

[Sylvan-Forge]

MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18421356/

Poll Results Before Debate: Total Votes: 73,179

1. Rudy Giuliani 41%
2. John McCain 31%
3. Mitt Romney 28%
4. Mike Huckabee 14%
5. Tommy Thompson 11%
6. Sam Brownback 10%
7. Tom Tancredo 10%
8. Ron Paul 9%
9. Duncan Hunter 7%
10. Jim Gilmore 4%

Poll Results After Debate: Total Votes: 78,865

1. Ron Paul 36%
2. Mitt Romney 29%
3. Rudy Giuliani 25%
4. John McCain 20%
5. Mike Huckabee 13%
6. Sam Brownback 9%
7. Tom Tancredo 9%
8. Tommy Thompson 9%
9. Duncan Hunter 8%
10. Jim Gilmore 6%

This poll tracks the IP address and only allows one vote from it.
Of course there are ways around that, like voting from other comps or maybe dynamic IP adresses ..


In case you are wondering .. I only voted once.
I only vote once on any poll, regardless.

 

[Ratzinger_p38]

Beck is pimping Giulliani because he stands the best chance of winning and Romney because he and Beck are both Mormon.

Despite my father's side being of a Mormon background, I wouldnt just vote lock and step with religion. I am a Roman Catholic, and you wouldnt catch me voting for fake Catholics like Kennedy in Mass. I would have to sit out if Romney ran - even though Mass isnt my state, I havent forgotten his signing of the Mass 'Assault weapon ban'.

 

[Outlaws]

007,
They also track how people arrived at the polls page. So if they see 5,000 hits from a THR thread about boosting Ron Paul, they take notice. By and large the numbers should be from the websites home page or from a search engine link (ie google news).

Direct requests to a page, like when we post a link that needs to be copied and pasted into the address bar, also looks fishy if they see too many.

 

[Lupinus]

ratzinger-

You forget though that there are a lot of people who would do that. It's the same reason a lot of people will or wont vote for a Morman or a RC. A lot of Mormans will vote for a Morman simply because he is Morman, there is no level playing field to their mind if he is the only Morman. And a lot wont vote for a Morman because of that fact and that they fear a Morman will give any other Morman preferential treatment such as a pardon. The same goes for Roman Catholics, added to that they fear direction and influence of the Pope.

 

[feedthehogs]

Word out of Washington is after Al Gore wins nobel, he'll run and team with Obama as his VP and should win the election.
The dems don't want no part of Hillary.

 

[Mike U.]

Nil wrote:

Quote:
Do you think that when the fact that Obama is from a radical muslim family gets out, he'll actually stand a chance?
Unlike the "people" who elected him, I think by and large, the American public won't stand for someone like him in the White House. From what I've read, I believe his father is a radical islamic imam, aka, a mad mullah.

Naww, once the real mud-slinging begins, Obama is political dog meat. If his own party's other candidates don't make it known far and wide, then the republican candidates will make sure his radical islamic connection will be a topic of watercooler and soccer mom conversation from the Florida Keys to Arctic Alaska.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

Your theories have been proven to be false.

Nil, I don't know where you come up with the claim that this is a theory of mine. As was clearly stated in my post, it is an opinion.
And, you must be well aware that opinions are often compared to an anatomical feature common to animals, us included, and they all have the same odour. For me to claim otherwise in regard to my own opinion would be false.

And, as was stated in my post, it was worth what you paid for it.

Now, I do appreciate your link to snopes. If it is true, then there is erroneous information out here on the internet.
Gee, imagine that! :banghead: