glock 19 accuracy issues

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as i have said before i have shot my friends g19 and have been able to shoot 4" groups at 25yds with it, so how come if it was me that is the problem that i can shoot 4" groups with his glock and then shoot 2ft groups with mine......just a little food for thought
Maybe the gun just hates you?
 
thanks for all the info guys, gave glock a call and they said to send it back immediately so it will be in the mail tomorrow (on their dime)

as i have said before i have shot my friends g19 and have been able to shoot 4" groups at 25yds with it, so how come if it was me that is the problem that i can shoot 4" groups with his glock and then shoot 2ft groups with mine......just a little food for thought
Glad to hear they are going to help you out. Let us know what the issue was, if they are able to find any. Sometimes, these things happen for no discernible reason.... in which case, maybe they'll replace your entire slide assembly. :)
 
they said they would either fix mine or send me one back that was up to their "standards" so all in all i'm impressed so far with their customer service, before i send it out i'm gonna take it apart and take some pictures of the internals so i have a record of it pre factory fix
 
A went from a 1911 to a glock. I agree with all the above. You need good trigger technique and it helps if you firm up your wrist 50% or so before the shot.

I went form wanting to run over it to shooting tight groups at 15 yards. Its my favorite gun now and the practice it took was fun. My ex wife could shoot my 1911, but then again she was trained by the devil. :)
 
Yep, Glock will take care of you ... hmmm, did you check to see if you could find a crack the locking block or barrel lug or slide somewhere - more likely the slide...at any rate, Glock will fix it! Let us know.
 
One thing I am curious about, did others shoot it with the same result:confused: You mentioned you shot other peoples pistols and did better:)

I have been at ranges where a person has a new firearm, are not shooting it very well, pass it around to others and see if same result...Most of the time it is shooter error...

I feel by sending it back, is a good step:)

But if you stop at a gun range and allow a good marksman to shoot it, might be a good idea...Save you some time and effort...If it is Glock problem they can tell you...Then send it back...

Good luck...
 
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Maybe someone installed the NY1 police trigger.

This is a silly statement if you're speaking of the 8 lb trigger. If you can shoot there's not going to be much difference between the std 5# and 8# trigger.
 
I wish I could brag like Drew. But if I could shoot like that I would, too.
The Glock 19 is too fine a gun to have a problem. I'll bet they fix it in a jiffy..
Perfect practice makes perfect practice.
 
Maybe someone installed the NY1 police trigger.

This is a silly statement if you're speaking of the 8 lb trigger. If you can shoot there's not going to be much difference between the std 5# and 8# trigger.

I don't think it's a silly statement. For someone with good trigger control it isn't much of an issue, but even then it will likely cost you an inch or two at 25yd.

I don't train with the OP, so I don't know how many rounds he's shooting a month or what his abilities are. I've seen some absolutely horriffic shooting from Glocks with NY triggers.

I think it is a valid question that was answered by the OP. The reason people are focusing on operator error is because 99 times out of 100 when you hear "my gun's not accurate" it should read "I'm not accurate with my gun". This is especially true when it involves shooting low.

I would also ask if the OP has been shooting any lightweight .357s or other magnum pistols and developed a hell of a flinch.

Thing is, it's easy to diagnose...shoot your friends G19. Then if it isn't you, send the gun back.
 
I wish I could brag like Drew. But if I could shoot like that I would, too.
The Glock 19 is too fine a gun to have a problem. I'll bet they fix it in a jiffy..
Perfect practice makes perfect practice.

I could brag tell how good I do, but what is the point :confused: The situation is easy to cure and resolve, many good suggestions...
:D
 
Another thought...could the Slide Lock be in backwards? ... the groove goes toward the rear...:confused:
 
I hate to suggest user error like everyone else. BUT, at such close distances; could ANY mechanical defect really be to blame for such poor accuracy. If the gun had such a mechanical deformity, etc to cause that horrible or accuracy, would it even opperate?

I would think even the smallest of mouse guns could produce a smaller group at 5 yrds. I'm genuinely curious to see results after glock handles it.
 
My first handgun was a G19. I hated it because i couldn't hit anythng with it. NOw I am hitting golf balls at up to 15 yards away with it. It's hard for a handgun with a 4 inch barrel of any brand to group the way the OP is grouping. Yeah, you might need some training.
 
i've delayed the shipment back to glock until after easter weekend when i can get a chance to shoot it some more and swap some of the parts out with my buddies g19

here's is my plan

1. i shoot my g19, i shoot his g19 - that should tell me if its user error
2. he shoots his and he shoots mine - that should tell me user error also
3. swap his barrel out for mine - see of the barrel is the issue
4. switch the slide out but keep original barrel- see if its a slide issue
5. switch complete slide and barrel out - see if its a slide also
also would like to get the nra instructor to shoot it also if he is at the club

p/s 1 and 2 will be done free hand and 3-5 shooting will be done off of a rest

all these comments about me shooting poorly have got me second guessing my abilities and wondering if it is really me so i'm gonna do some serious shooting with it this weekend
 
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Using a rest is ok, sometimes...But I feel freehand shooting is best...

I shoot, 2 handed, 1 handed, left and right... Both eyes open, one eye open, standing, squating... At 7 yds, I like that spot... I shoot at bullseyes as a rule:what: 6 oclock hold, point on...
Shoot rapid (semi controlled) slow fire, quite a bit, put a couple of rounds in the mag shoot them reload, handle it a lot, I like it all:D

Have fun:D
 
Z Michigan, there undoubtedly IS a problem with reading posts on THR. You should read the original post, Sir. The OP clearly said that he had difficulty getting a 6" group at 5 yards. Had you read that post, you undoudtedly would not have posted your snark-o-gram.
 
Copied from the OPs first and second posting in this thread, for clarity. Emphasis added.

my first shot out of a cold barrel is always 1 ft low and my gun will not hold a group to save its life, i have a problem getting a 6 inch group at 5yds,... i have had other people shoot it and the same thing happens,... as i mentioned before, i have had other people shoot it to make sure it wasn't me... my friend and i both bought g19's the same day and i can shoot 3" groups at 15yds all day with his g19...
 
I saw a pic of a Glock barrel with a grossly off center crown, not too long ago. I can't imagine that would do much for accuracy!
 
You need training:p Even though everyone else shoots it just as lousy as you do, and you shoot well with the same model pistol owned by a friend of yours, its user error.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

The first thing I would look at is the sites. My front got a little beat up rather quickly and finally decided it needed replacement, as it fell off one day at the range. My rear sight has been replaced once or twice with take-offs (I really should get a steel one...).

Sounds like you have a solid plan, but to be honest, if I couldn't find a problem with the sights, I'd just send it back to glock and let them deal with it.

I seem to recall someone here having a rail section come loose from the frame which, of course, pretty much ruined accuracy. Not something I worry about, but I still take a look at them when I have the slide off of mine.
 
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