Glock 30 Accuracy

[southeastshooter]

I know that the Glock 30 is supposed to be one of the most accurate Glock's but I am terrible with it. I have shot about 100 rounds through it and just suck. The recoil isn't bad and I know I have a good correct grip and stance but I just can't seem to hit where i'm aiming. I have been shooting WWB and Sellier and Bellot 230gr. FMJ from 15 to 25 yards. I have my master hand correct and am using the thumbs forward style for my support hand with all of my fingers overlapping my master hand and both thumbs forward. I am shooting slow to see how accurate I can be not rapid firing. To be honest when I fire rapidly I seem to be more accurate than when slow shooting. Also I clean my Glock after every range trip and cleaned it when it was new before I ever shot it, I use Hoppe's Elite. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong here?

 

[Spencer5883]

Probably a trigger control issue. Try taking all the slack out of the trigger, then slowly adding more and more pressure until it breaks. Hold trigger to rear, then let forward.

 

[southeastshooter]

Thanks I think I may have it figured out. I have been shooting a a target that isn't tall as I am and it is on a slight slanted hill and I have been aiming to high. Also I just bought some Winchester Ranger .45ACP 230gr. and when I hand cycle the rounds to empty the magazine I usually get one or two that stick and I have to cycle the slide again to get them to extract. When I shoot them I do not get this problem. I know that hand cycling is not recommended but should I be worried?

 

[BP Hunter]

I honestly wouldn't expect real good accuracy out of a compact pistol especailly from a .45. 25 yards is far for a short barrel weapon. A compact weapon like that was really not meant to shoot that accurately that far. I have a G36 and only shoot up to 10 yards with it, tough I know I can shoot better and further with it.

 

[southeastshooter]

Well I mean 15yds imo isn't far at all for a 3.78in. barrel to be shooting accurately which is the distance that I was shooting at 90% of the time. I think I have that figured out though. I am mainly curious about the extracting issue now. I realize by hand one would never be able to create the same force that the weapon does while firing but it still has me worried.

 

[GLOOB]

If unfired cartridges are difficult to extract, I'd say there's something wrong with that ammo, or there's something wrong with your barrel/chamber. Those cartridges should slide out just from gravity. I'd be worried. Perhaps the chamber is off, somehow. That would explain both issues.

If I take my time with my G21, I can keep 5 shot groups under 3 1/2" offhand at 15 yards all day, with any and every ammo I've put through it. I wouldn't expect much different from the G30. I dunno what your standards are, but that's ok to me.

 

[southeastshooter]

I will be giving Glock a call in the morning. I just bought mine around December 20th. I really hate to do that but it will be better in the long run. It isn't that they are difficult to extract per say. What happens is one will just fling out a lot further than the others with some tension while the others come out with ease. Also when I try to chamber a round occasionally with RA45T they will stick I guess, and you have to pull the slide back harder to get it to load.

 

[southeastshooter]

I feel like it may be my fault, maybe riding the slide? But better safe than sorry. I will be testing it a little more tonight to triple check myself.

 

[southeastshooter]

Ok just tried WWB, RA45T and Sellier and Bellot and tried 3 different magazines while hand cycling all the rounds through the Glock. I had at least 1 or 2 shells give me trouble extracting in each mag. I field stripped it checked out the extractor and it looks fine, no cracks or anything abnormal. One WWB locked up in the chamber and wouldn't extract until I dropped the mag. *** Keep in mind this does not happen while live firing so I am at a loss. I feel like as long as it works fine while firing i'm ok and i'm doing something wrong while hand cycling it. Does anyone think that this warrants a call to Glock or a trip to the local armorer?

 

[Bobo]

Sounds like your chamber may be either dirty or rough or both.

Clean the chamber thoroughly.
Wrap a stick pen (BIC) with some #600 or #800 sandpaper or emery cloth.
Sand lightly and evenly in an in-and-out motion (they way the cartridge goes in and out) until the chamber is nice and shiny.
Clean the chamber and barrel really well and just slightly oil the chamber and barrel.
Lube the slide rails lightly before reassembling.
Try hand cycling it again.

If this doesn't work it is probably a bad extractor.

Good luck,
Bobo

 

[southeastshooter]

Not to be rude at all but the chamber is almost like looking in a mirror. Also the slide rails are oiled and clean. I'm thinking it's the extractor as well. Guess i'll be looking for an armorer in the morning.

 

[southeastshooter]

Now with some azooms I am experiencing double feeds with multiple magazines and more fte's so i'm really putting my money on that it's the extractor. I hate it when a gun goes down Hopefully I can get this figured out tomorrow.

 

[southeastshooter]

Just an update. I called Glock today and spoke to two different people and both said that this is fairly common before 200 rounds have went through the gun. I'm at 110 now so hopefully it will work itself out. I shot 50 today and it seems to be getting better or maybe I just manipulated the slide correctly this time. Either way I think it was user induced or just chalk it up to a new tight gun.

 

[Mr.Revolverguy]

We all know every gun is different but I never had a problem with my glock 30 or ever heard of a break in period with them either. I hope this is all it turns out to be for you, I would surely clean it though. Though revolvers are my first love and I have hated glocks for a very long time my glock 30 has given me confidence with semi auto's. As for accuracy here is a review I wrote of mine.

Glock 30 Review

 

[southeastshooter]

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[southeastshooter]

Thanks. I absolutely love my Glock I just hope it works out for me. Thanks for the link. Your accuracy at 25yds looks like mine at 15yds to 10yds. I need someone to teach me to shoot it apparently :banghead:

 

[southeastshooter]

This is my target today from 5 yards. I feel like it's me not the gun. Nevertheless I feel terrible about today's accuracy. Some of it is rapid firing but not most of it.

 

[k4swb]

Try shooting only five shots at a time always leaving five rounds in the magazine. Keep topping the mag off between 5 round shots. The G30 gets really light in the bottom as it empties. This causes the gun to become more snappy with lower round count in the mag. I can shoot my G30 well but it is easier for the first five shots vs the last five.
Something else that I found is if you put a G21 mag with the spacer in a G30 it gives a better grip and makes the gun easier to control as it gets lighter in the grip.

 

[Glock Doctor]

Keep cycling live ammo through that new Glock and, eventually, you'll shoot yourself (or worse) and finally be able to stop obsessing over the gun.

Suggest you forget about those self-inflicted feeding problems, and take a good NRA course in firearms safety and proper gun handling.

http://www.nrahq.org/education/index.asp

 

[David E]

At five yds, you should have one hole no larger than a quarter for the entire magazine. (slowfire)

 

[ducati]

Don't believe you can't shoot tight groups at 25 yards with the G30. I have shot and have seen others shoot under 2" at 25 yards.

 

[NG VI]

25 yards is far for a short barrel weapon.

Noooo. What's the top of one of those 16.9 oz Poland Spring water bottles, like two and a half inches across or so? I had no trouble at all planting rounds into one from 25 yards with my Glock 27, even smaller than the 30. It's just about following the fundamentals with your sight picture, which I admit can be harder than with a fullsize gun, but those little Glocks are just unreal in their accuracy. Never expected to be top shot with the 27 over my bigger pistols, but it happened after some getting used to it.

Keep in mind this does not happen while live firing so I am at a loss. I feel like as long as it works fine while firing i'm ok and i'm doing something wrong while hand cycling it.

Is there any chance you aren't cycling it hard enough? I know that a bunch of my pistols and my 452 can appear to have poor or weak extraction if I cycle them slowly, but are absolutely perfect if I just give 'er the grease.

 

[giggitygiggity]

Dry fire. Slowly squeeze the trigger and keep your eye on the front sight. Let the shot surprise you when it goes off. If there is no round in the chamber, the gun should remain fixed in place, even as the trigger breaks. There should be an equal amount of daylight on both sides of the top sight and you must maintain that daylight between shots in order to be consistent. If you shoot slow, single shots and are a proficient shooter, one fist-sized group at 25 yards with the Glock 30, even with cheap ammo is completely possible.

 

[LiveLife]

My G30 was a very accurate pistol, despite the short barrel. It easily shot around 1" groups at 7-10 yards and 2" groups at 15 yards all day off hand.

Here's one article of G30 accuracy:

Groups fired from a seated rest at 25 yards yielded no real surprises with either gun. Loads that are liked best were used (i.e., Hornady 200 grain XTP, Black Hills 230 and 185 grain JHP and Cor-Bon 185 grain JHP +P and DPX). With the compact G30 SF, the best groups fired ranged between 1 1/2 inches and 2 inches.

 

[Ridgerunner665]

It takes practice AND conscious effort (thinking about it while you're doing it) to master the trigger pull of a striker fired pistol...lots of both.

As far as G30 accuracy...I can't say, never fired one..but my G36 will do 1 ragged hole groups at 15 yards if I do my part (thats about a 1.5" hole). I suspect the G30 can do the same.

These guns (all of them) are FAR more accurate than most people...