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I am trying to find the article but disassemble the Glock and remove the barrel and notice how much play there is in the chamber. It has nothing to do with the chamber not being totally supported, that is where the myth comes into play.
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Thats not really an issue either. It certainly wont cause a catastrophic failure. The biggest problem with that is if you get cases that way and try to shoot them in another gun they can not want to chamber, due to the area that isnt resized being oversized. This isnt that big of a deal though, as I dont experience it with my glock and 1911. I have never met anyone in person that has had a problem with it either.

Well I am still unable to find what I am looking for but this is interesting right here.

http://www.proshooter.org/cgi/ubb/ul...3;t=000057;p=0
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Pressure will NOT increase unless the bore becomes badly fouled. I can shoot my 18bhn lead rounds all day and not have appreciable leading. Its about finding the proper load that allows the round to seal to the bore but not be fast enough to skid across the rifling. This is done everyday by countless reloaders. Have you ever reloaded for a glock?
 
When I was in Iraq in 05 the guys that trained the Iraqis carried Glock 19s.

Unless you were part of a special group, bringing a personal weapon was a very quick way to get an article 15 or court martial. I saw it happen to a guy in my company who conveniently "forgot" to unpack his Glock 22 and 4 loaded mags from his pack before deployment.
 
Him: That's the only Glock that has ever broken. Some guy in Iraq ran it over with a tank.
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Lots of Glocks have broken over the years.
Plenty of KABOOMS and plenty of failures.
This does not mean that Glocks are bad.
Considering how many are in service around the world, they have a stellar reputation for reliability and durability.

Me: How did he get a Glock in Iraq?
Him: He brought it.
Me: You can't bring your own guns. They give you everything you can bring (My dad is a readiness flight chief who confirmed this)
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Yes and no.
Yes, you are expected to only carry issued weapons.
Yes, folks do bring their own weapons sometimes (almost always against rules and regulations).
Some commanders choose to be "unaware" of such weapons.

Him: Well then it must have been issued to him. They issue a full-auto Glock 18 to everybody in Iraq, just like in Call of Duty.
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Your friend is an idiot if he really believes this to be true.

Me: The only pistols they issues are the M1911 to special groups, M9, and the M11, a smaller version of the M9.
Him: You are wrong.
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Not true....at least back in 1991 during Desert Storm.
Our med-evac pilots carried issued .38 revolvers (I'm not sure of the make and model).

I realize that neither of us are experts, so let me ask the experts here.
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There are NO experts that know everything about all military branches.

1. Does the United States military issue any form of a Glock to deployed soldiers?
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Maybe.
There are those secretive types that might be issued such weapons.
But I personally know of none.

2. What happened to this Glock?
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It looks like it KABOOMED for some reason.
 
Carrying personal weapons is a violation of the theater general orders. You will NOT see guys running around with privately owned weapons. Those training the IA or police might temporarily be issued the same weapon they are training. If you are detached to a three-letter agency, and you are expected to blend in to keep your precise identity vague, they may issue the sidearm they are carrying. (This is VERY rare.) As for the guy who was a marine in Desert Storm with the .45, we are heck and GONE from Desert Storm rules. It's not the same AT ALL. No modified uniforms, you wear a safety reflective belt on post, etc.

The bottom photo of the 1st ID guy with the Glock is several years old, the body armor, the patch, and blouse he's wearing have all been replaced for a while now.

There have been guys who got UCMJ'd for wearing non-authorized body armor, because it is non-standard. You are NOT taking a privately owned weapon to theater, get used to it.
 
ljnowell-
Gap vs ACP is a moot issue. Same pressures, same bullets if you could get a gap in an acp gun and it fired it wouldnt hurt anything. Like getting a 40 to hang off the extractor and fire in a 10mm.
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i almost shot a gap in my acp just a few weeks ago. i loaded the mag chambered a round and put back in my holster, loaded my 2nd mag and placed it next to the empty box of ammo and just happened to notice the 45gap on the box.

are you saying if i had shot the round it would not have hurt the pistol? i'm not trying to argue or anything like that, i just always shot what the firearm was chambered for. i thought if i had shot the gap in the acp it could have caused serious injury to myself or ruined the firearm.
 
i almost shot a gap in my acp just a few weeks ago. i loaded the mag chambered a round and put back in my holster, loaded my 2nd mag and placed it next to the empty box of ammo and just happened to notice the 45gap on the box.

are you saying if i had shot the round it would not have hurt the pistol? i'm not trying to argue or anything like that, i just always shot what the firearm was chambered for. i thought if i had shot the gap in the acp it could have caused serious injury to myself or ruined the firearm.
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You are right for only shooting ammo the belongs in the gun. Thats the right way. What I was saying is the comparison between the two makes it likely that there would be no problem. The GAP runs at a pressure that is equal to .45acp +P. There is no danger of a catastrophic failure because of this. The difference as far as chambering is that the GAP is shorter. 45acp and GAP both headspace off of the casemouth. What will usually happen, as when people attempt to fire 40 in a 10mm is that the case rim will slide under the extractor and be held against the breech face this way. The cartridge will fire many times with no problems. I have seen this cause extractor damage to pistols, as the case is not headspacing off the case mouth as intended and puts undue stress on the extractor.
 
The Bushmaster said:
You guys are letting Glocks turn your minds to mush...That Glock had a KA-BOOM...Whether it was from a reload or factory round has little to do with it. It went KA-BOOM more then likely from a negligent operator...Ran over by a tank? Give me a break...

As far as the U.S. military issuing Glocks to the GIs is possible but highly unlikely due to the fact that I can't use the parts from your [no longer needed] gun to repair mine in the field. Then there is the ammunition compatibility problem.
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No, not to blood likely, my best guess is that this pistol was not a kaboom, but rather the result of some other type of misadventure, run over by a tank being quite possible....I see no evidence of carbon deposits or burn which would be the natural consequence of a kaboom, particularly one so powerful as to completely blow the frame apart!
I saw a 21SF detonate in a guys hands, a round of(minimum)double-charged PMC factory 230 gr ball was the culprit, while certainly destroying the frame, it in no way came anywhere close to fragmenting it, just cracking it, blowing out the magazine through the bottom and actually cracking/splitting the barrel at the chamber!
 
I haven't been in Iraq since november 2006 but I will tell you that I Never saw a glock on any one.

You know what else I never saw... a personaly owned weapon. I did see a writen order that stated that having a personaly owned weapon was 100% against the rules, same for ammo. I was only there for a couple years so I didn't see every thing but I am a gun guy so I pay attention to what every one is packing.
 
usmc1371

That makes sence. If you SAW a RULE that was on Paper, then someone had to skirt the Non-existing rule.

Ie: someone carried their own firearm, their own ammo, and some supervisor said, "Hey, we can't have this. We better make a rule stating so."

It has been my expirence, there won't be a rule untill someone FORCES the issue.

My opinion of the Kaboom, Looks like a bad round and the Glock Case took the impact to save the person's hand. Kinda like a helmet in a fall.
BELL Helments even says, One crash One helmet.
Just like Racing Seatbelts being replaced after each crash.
 
I see a nominal photo of an intact slide and barrel assembly, and wouldn't there have been damage to the barrel (I can see the lug fine) if the round was bad? Looks like only damage to the receiver, and where is the operating spring and rod assembly? So maybe the pistol went kaboom, or maybe the receiver was crushed by some other means? It's an anti-Glock photo folks, and might have been staged?

The bottom photo of the 1st ID guy with the Glock is several years old, the body armor, the patch, and blouse he's wearing have all been replaced for a while now.
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WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE AN AMERICAN OWNED GLOCK FOLKS? btw I know a fellow who dropped his Glock and it landed on the edge of a concrete step, and it got a small crack on the trigger guard. Now that was 25 years ago, and Glock replaced the receiver.

I purchased a used Glock 17 about 15 years ago, and the pivot pin for the trigger was broken in the center. It shot fine, but as it was for SD it could've been a problem. I was glad I had it fully inspected before I carried it for SD.

All guns break in one form or another.

LD
 
How many contractors (nice word for mercenary) are in Iraq? Blackwater uses whatever they want and answers to no one.
 
How many contractors (nice word for mercenary) are in Iraq? Blackwater uses whatever they want and answers to no one.
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Let's get rid of all the contractors. Then we can just keep the troops (myself included) CONTINUOUSLY deployed. Good idea. And, instead of focusing on DoD missions, we can run around guarding the DoS as well, which is what TC, Aegis, BW, DynCorp, and other groups have been doing.
Contract companies issue the guns they want. It's not against the rules for a contract company to equip its guys with Glocks, 1911s, SIGs, or whatever else.
 
I can't find exactly what I am looking for but I found this.

GENERAL ORDER NUMBER 1 (cO-1)
TITLE: Prohibited Activities for U.S Department of Defense Personnel Assigned to the Multi-National Corps - lraq (MNC-l) or Present Within the MNC-l Area of Responsibility (AoR).

PURPOSE: To identify conduct that is prejudicial to the maintenance of good order and discipline of all forces assigned to the MNC-I or present within the MNC-I AOR.

AUTHORITY: United States Central Command (USCENTCOM), General Order 1A (GO-1A), dated 19 Dec 00; Amendment to GO-1A, dated 9 Aug 03.

APPLICABILITY: This General Order is applicable to all United States military personnel, and to civilians serving with, employed by, or accompanying the Armed Forces of the United States, while assigned to the MNC-I or while present in the MNC-I AOR except for personnel expressly excluded under USCENTCOM GO-1A. This General Order also applies to all United States military personnel, and to civilians serving with, employed by, or accompanying the Armed Forces of the United States, while under the operational control of the Commander, MNC-l and present for duty in
Kuwait or lraq. Such duty includes but is not limited to pre-deployment site surveys, leader's recons, and advanced party deployments. This General Order is not applicable to any personnel assigned to XVlllAirborne Corps (Rear) or personnel located outside the USCENTCOM AOR.
1. STATEMENT OF MILITARY PURPOSE AND NECESSITY: [removed by IZHUMINETER as non-pertinent]
2. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES: In accordance with and in addition to USCENTCOM GO-1A, the following activities are prohibited:
a. Purchase, possession, use or sale of privately owned firearms, ammunition, explosives, or the introduction of these items into the MNC-l AOR

Read it yourself at < https://www.1cc.balad.iraq.centcom.m...0Order 1.PDF >
 
It's pretty simple folks--no national armed force that actually fights uses the cop gun save for the Iraqis, and like most agencies, they didn't pay much, if anything for theirs either.
 
It's pretty simple folks--no national armed force that actually fights uses the cop gun save for the Iraqis, and like most agencies, they didn't pay much, if anything for theirs either.
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Did you read the thread?
 
It's pretty simple folks--no national armed force that actually fights uses the cop gun save for the Iraqis, and like most agencies, they didn't pay much, if anything for theirs either.
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:eek::eek:

not to mention all the european countries like sweden, that issue glocks.

it's the most popular pistol in the world, dude. read the thread...
 
USAF Fighter pilots are issued Glock 19s. It is even on Glock's website. (go figure the company that makes the pistol might have info on it.) Link
 
Hey Mags, do you have any proof of this? I know you are in the Air Force, but I've never seen a USAF pilot with a Glock 19 and have never heard of it, aside from the info on Glock.com.
 
Never seen it in person on an AF pilot but it is listed in our inventory. I also found a Glock 17 thigh rig in our Spec Ops armory but they didn't have any Glocks they did have enough unused in the last 15 years, WW2 to vietnam Remington Rands to make you cry though.
 
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