Glock weirdness Gen 3 G23

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Hi, my G23's slide closes if I pull it slightly rearward, point it up, and release the slide. This is supposedly a common test to ensure the spring assembly is fresh enough. However, if I hold the trigger to the rear and do the same thing, the slide remains out of battery until I release the trigger, at which point the slide closes.

Thoughts?

I don't remember it ever being like this before but I don't know if I specifically tried this. The frame and guts were recently replaced by Glock after my original frame rail broke.
 
since I happened to be next to 3 of my glocks. (17/34/35). They all returned to battery with the trigger pulled back. My 34 did feel pretty mushy. However the only thing stock on it is the frame and slide.
 
Thanks. What do you think this could be? I did loan it to a buddy during a match and he said it was stinging his finger, like trigger slap. I hadn't really noticed it other than it's not super fun to shoot. What would cause this in a stock Glock? This is a new frame with new OEM trigger guts as of a few months ago. But it also stung my buddy's finger with the 1995-era guts in it before the frame rail broke off. Something out of spec or tolerance stacking somewhere? It runs flawlessly.
 
When you pull the trigger and rack the slide the striker gets fully cocked and is pushing at the back of the slide with full force, releasing the trigger releases the striker to that glockish "half cock" and the striker spring tension is lowered. A new recoil spring will take care of that "issue".
 
You are supposed to hold the trigger down for a spring check. Might give Smyrna a call and ask or just replace the spring with a new one.

I would be tempted to replace it with a steel guide rod and slightly heavier spring (19-20#). I've done this with a few of my larger caliber Glocks. Even a Wolff 18# should work better, IMO.

good luck

M
 
IT'S FINE. ALL OF MY GLOCKS DO THIS!!!!!!

Sometimes, but not all of the time. And M&P, and HK, and Walther, and Ruger, and most of the other striker pistols. I currently have one old G23.3, one new G23.4, a brand new G41.4, and a brand new (less than 200 rounds) G34.4 that all do this.

Glocks don't cycle that slow. It's unnatural to gently ride the slide home that slowly. Momentum is what closes that last bit of travel when the trigger is held back. Chances are Glock put in a new striker spring. Fresh new striker springs can be a bit stiff.

I test the recoil spring by bringing the slide back a little, and letting go gently with my finger off of the trigger. It's a stupid test. If you feel the need for this test, don't bother, just put a new recoil spring in. They're cheap, and critical.

With your finger on the trigger, the recoil spring has to overcome the striker spring as well. When you lift off the trigger, the striker can relax a little, and the slide rides home. PERFECTLY NORMAL. It most often happens with a mag in and a snap cap in the bore (press check). It happens less often on Glocks with 5000+ rounds through them.

Mine will all do it all the time, with a snap cap in, and another snap cap in the mag.

The OP likely already has a new spring. Glock swaps them pretty much every time they touch a used pistol. You could buy another recoil spring assembly. If that spring changes nothing, then keep it as a spare. You'll be needing it soon enough anyways.
When you notice recoil sharpening, replace the spring.

Also check that there isn't any thick lube in the striker channel if you want to be be that careful.

The stinging finger is your stock trigger safety kicking you when the Glock resets. You can flush cut the safety to mitigate that. Use a G34.3 trigger, hold the safety in from the rear, Dremel the safety lever face flush with the trigger face. Don't hit the trigger shoe though. And finish sand with 2000 grit. Careful, or you'll have to do it again.
 
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None of my Glocks do that.

Factory polymer captured spring assemblies have been known to break. The steel guide rod with Wolff spring is still to be preferred.

M
 
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IT'S FINE. ALL OF MY GLOCKS DO THIS!!!!!!

Interesting, because I just checked, and my Glock 19 does not do this. Glock 21 does not do this. Glock 22 does not do this. Glock 26 does not do this. Glock 27 does not do this. Glock 30 gen 3 does not do this. Glock 30 gen 4 does not do this. Glock 41 does not do this. Glock 43 does not do this.

Chances are Glock put in a new striker spring. Fresh new striker springs can be a bit stiff.
Glock didn't put in a new striker spring because I didn't send them the top end, just the frame.

The OP likely already has a new spring. Glock swaps them pretty much every time they touch a used pistol.
See above; I didn't send them the top end and they didn't send me a new RSA.

The stinging finger is your stock trigger safety kicking you when the Glock resets. You can flush cut the safety to mitigate that.
Both the smooth and the serrated trigger I've been trying have the safeties sanded flush.

I have ordered a new guide rod and spring; will report results. Thanks for all the ideas, folks
 
Just guessing here, but it can be from two things I believe: either your friend feels the slide returning and cocking the striker, or the lower locking lug is making contact with the trigger when unlocking the barrel.
 
the (-1-) should be stamped in it.. the difference is in the FP safety cam.. (the part that sticks up)
 
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