glue/resin for glock frame

[grampajack]

Good advice. You should take it.

I'm not the one belittling people for what they do with their own guns, so I don't know why you would direct that at me. What that guy said was extremely rude, entirely incorrect, and unsolicited by the OP. And his comments were belittling to anyone who modifies their Glock, which includes me. He called us out, and he got a response.

ETA: BTW, what in the OP's post made you guys think he wanted a bunch of flak? He asked for a specific piece of information, not for a bunch of know it alls to treat him like a child. You and others like you have contributed absolutely nothing to this thread besides snarky internet bullying. Honestly, would you be that rude to someone's face?

 

[Walt Sherrill]

Which brands do you deem collectible? Are the Colt, S&W, Sig, HK, CZ, H&R, Marlin, Remington, Winchester, etc, etc, etc collectors also "not serious" in your view?

A few of the first generation Glocks now seem to have become "collectible"... But that's mostly among Glock enthusiasts. There are collectors and there are accumulators -- and sometimes it's hard to tell them apart. But just because someone has a bunch of one type of thing or another doesn't mean he or she has acquired things of great value to anyone but himself.

Most of the guns you listed above, unless they are very old, aren't automatically going to be collectible. And in terms of $ value -- what many collectors think about (even if it's not their key focus) -- the $ value of most of those guns, has NOT kept up with inflation. Then too, most serious collectors look for guns in "as-new" condition with the original box, papers, etc.

If $ value is an important consideration for you, the gun someone paid $400 for in 1960 would have to sell for almost $3,200 today [2016], to just break even in terms of buying power. (If that seems unreasonable, here's a link to an inflation calculator that uses the actual measured inflation rates for the last 100+ years. It's frightening.)

http://146.142.4.24/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl​

A few folks participating on this forum have kept guns they bought years ago, and feel they've grown in value. With the right choices that's certainly possible. But most folks who sell a gun they bought years ago, even when they sell it for a LOT more than they paid, generally aren't doing that well.

 

[grampajack]

Right you are. Just because a gun is collectible, to someone, doesn't mean it's valuable. Personally, I would like a gen 1 Glock in my collection, especially if it were in good condition with the box and paperwork. But I don't have any delusions about it being uber valuable within the remainder of my lifetime.

In terms of investment, my idea of a good move is a well known milsurp. Of course the boat has sailed with most of those, but I think there are still good deals to be made with some of the more obscure yet historically significant ones. As far as new guns, I can't think of anything on the market right now that, bought new today, would increase in value within our lifetime. Especially when it comes to Glocks.

So if you like collecting Glocks, more power to you. It's certainly not the most useless thing people collect. But don't have any delusions about it being an investment, and certainly don't lecture and belittle people for making sensible modifications to their tactical tupperware.

 

[CraigC]

There are so many things wrong with this, I don't even know where to begin. People modify firearms all the time, and doing so doesn't mean you "don't know how to shoot." In fact, if you look at the world's leading shooters in any category, you find a plethora of highly modified firearms. I guess they should heed your advice and just learn how to shoot, huh? In fact, a recent article discussed some of the country's top firearms instructors and competitive shooters in terms of what equipment they used and any modifications they made to their carry pieces. Some were stock, but many were heavily modified.

Furthermore, it's been recognized for ages that Glocks aren't comfortable for most people. Companies like Robar have been doing Glock modification for I don't even know how long, and some very well respected names have endorsed them. Lastly, a proper grip reduction is far more appropriate than some janky rubber sleeve, or even the backstraps that come with the Gen 4s. It's a very elegant solution to a nagging problem.

And lastly, who are you to tell someone else what to do with their own property, or to lecture them about it? The guy asks for help, and you take that as an invitation to put him down, along with everyone else who modifies their guns? Quite frankly, it's none of your business what we do with our guns, and your approval is neither needed nor is it wanted.

I have to agree with this. Particularly with revolvers, a properly fitting set of grips can make all the difference in the world.

hk-sigman, I'm glad you're satisfied with factory guns, many are not and there is almost always room for improvement. Perhaps you don't know what you're missing?