Good Concealment Holster for a Woman thats NOT a purse

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I'm looking for a good concealment option for a small 38 special revolver, other than carrying it in my purse.

As an American Woman by birth and Texan by the grace of God, I'd like to exercise my right to carry, especially since I am on the road alot for my job; so I got myself a Texas CHL a few years ago.

Then I looked around for a smaller pistol and came across an old snub-nosed 38 revolver in a box of my daddys things that I had never opened after he died from lung cancer a few years ago. I took the 38 to the range a few times and it shot fine, and other than the fact that it seems like it kicks alot for such a little gun with such a tiny little grip, it seems like it'll get the job done.

But what kinda holster can I use for it?

As a fashionable professional woman, I tend to prefer skirts and heels, to wranglers and cowboy boots (although I own those as well). But when wearing a tight pencil skirt and high heels without pantyhose to work on a daily basis, it doesnt leave much place for hiding a little pistol on a tiny framed petite woman like me, who's barely 5ft tall barefoot in high heels.

Other thing is, I don't like big monster purses. In fact I hate them. They look huge on me and are a pain to carry, plus I can never find what Im looking for whether its my cell phone or my cigarettes or my credit cards or my lighter or my car keys or my bandaids for blisters on my heels or whatever. So I usually just carry little tiny-clutch purses that don't leave much room for pistols, even a little snubnosed 38 special.

I looked at some galco pistol hiding purses at a gun show, but they were monster sized purses big enough to hide my daddys old 45 in. Waaay to big for me. Plus Im kinda a fashion snob, so if Louis Vuitton or Michael Kors doesnt make it, I don't want it for a purse.

So whats a girl to do? I seek your sage wisdom and counsel. Thank you kindly.
 
In the interest of full disclosure, I am not now nor have I ever been a woman. But I did marry one and so am somewhat familiar with womens clothing and carry issues.

First, I congratulate you on your choice to both carry and to not carry "off-body" (purse or such) if you can help it.

Second, I'd suggest you look into what are called "tuckable" holsters. While everyone has a slightly different body shape, they do work for a lot of people. They fit inside the waistband of your pants or skirt, the belt going outside everything, including the holster. They fit deep into the waistband, allowing the shirt to be tucked in between the grip of the gun and your pants or skirt.

Be aware that you may have to either pay someone or DIY beltloops in skirts, because you WILL need a belt to support the weight of the gun without sagging. Some makers have very nice looking leather belts from one to one and three quarter inch width. I'd suggest the one inch if going the "tuckable" route.

Your options are a bit more open if you are willing to make the concession of wearing blousess meant to be worn untucked. This means more options in traditional Inside the Waistband (IWB) holsters that put the cylinder and barrel of the gun inside the pants or skirt but leave the grip exposes above the waistline. This means an untucked shirt or blouse.

The traditional Outside the Waistband (OWB) is usually the most comfortable, but also the most impractical for women. The entire holster is outside the beltline and must be concealed in its entirety (not just the grip) with a cover garment.

With dresses, you're pretty much screwed and stuck with off-body carry since beltloops and seperate tops are not part of the definition of a dress. Even a cardigan won't work, since a lot of dresses have such variation in the location of the waistline to alter the look of the dress.

In short, if you're willing to go with an IWB or tuckable, it's very possible, as long as you make some provision for a gunbelt. A gunbelt, by the way, does not have to mean three pounds of tooled leather. Some very slim and stiff belts are being cranked out now with CCW in mind.

I do not have a link, but the website "Cornered Cat" has some excellent articles and resources for women and CCW written by a woman named Kathy something. Me? I'm just a dude married to a woman.
 
My wife is also a woman that's not a purse. :p Apparently, the real problem with IWB holsters is not that they weren't designed for skirts, but that they were designed to ride a belt that straps around the top of a man's high, square pelvis. Holsters designed by men naturally ride where our belts do- around our hips, not around our midsection. Different body shape. result: a man's holster cants the butt of the gun IN, under a woman's ribcage... uncomfortable and hard to draw apparently. my wife wears slacks, and carries in a pocket. otherwise, you might consider a small vertical shoulder rig under a dress jacket (maybe the kind with a bib, if that's the right word? that makes the whole jacket take the place of a shirt). either way, you might need to go shopping for a new professional wardrobe.
 
I wonder if it would be possible for you to chat with a local Female LEO about what she does and what her experiences are? I suspect there is a ton of information available in the LEO world.

Ralph
 
Thanks for asking our advice.
I'm looking for a good concealment option for a small 38 special revolver, other than carrying it in my purse.
Yep, purse carry can be risky. And in your business attire (and part of the country) a fanny pack would probably not work either.
I took the 38 to the range a few times and it shot fine, and other than the fact that it seems like it kicks alot for such a little gun with such a tiny little grip, it seems like it'll get the job done.
The smaller the gun, the greater the recoil will be felt by the shooter. Physics, action-reaction. The heavier guns don't recoil as energetically.

The smaller the grip, the harder the kick to the hand (given the same amount of actual recoil), so the "palm sting" is always greater. The force is simply spread out over a smaller area.

A new set of grips might help. Larger grips would compromise concealability, but if you find some that fit the shape of your hand better it would spread the recoil forces more evenly. More evenly spread forces always feels more comfortable.

Also, grips with some "give" to them will cushion the recoil. Taurus makes some ribbed grips for their guns that are almost pillow-like. I don't know if any such are available, but you might look around.
place for hiding a little pistol on a tiny framed petite woman like me, who's barely 5ft tall barefoot in high heels.
It is more of a challenge for a small-framed person (male or female) to carry. The common solution is that one must "dress around" the gun.

Not to be sexist, but women seem to have an advantage in that society has required them to learn the ability to select clothing for purposes of camoflage. (Women have been "forced" to pay more attention to what body image they present to the public.) Use your fashion intelligence. Sadly, you may find giving up pencil skirts is necessary, but I am not qualified to make that suggestion. But just as an example, a thigh holster under a calf-length skirt of a wider design would seem an easy solution. I am sure you will find better ones (and ones that don't require you to dump any favorite clothes, hopefully) This is me trying to be sympathetic. I hope it works. If not, apologies.
Other thing is, I don't like big monster purses. In fact I hate them. They look huge on me and are a pain to carry, plus I can never find what Im looking for whether its my cell phone or my cigarettes or my credit cards or my lighter or my car keys or my bandaids for blisters on my heels or whatever. So I usually just carry little tiny-clutch purses that don't leave much room for pistols, even a little snubnosed 38 special.
One should NEVER have a gun loose in a purse (or any carrier, briefcase, dayplanner, pocket, whatever. You want it secured EXACTLY where you practice drawing from concealment. Every time, no exceptions. If you have to fumble around for the grip, you lose precious time or telegraph your intentions even in a slow, surreptitious draw. When you reach for your gun your hand and all fingers should be confidently in the precise same place every time.
So whats a girl to do? I seek your sage wisdom and counsel. Thank you kindly.

My "go to" girl (person) is the owner of this web site

www.corneredcat.com

Her name is Kathy Jackson and she is a moderator on "TheFiringLine" going by the name "Pax".

I cannot offer any better advice than she can, not only about women and guns, but about guns in general. She knows A LOT for women AND for men.

Good luck

Lost Sheep
 
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