Good news on national .50 ban

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House Rejects Effort on Rifle Restriction
By ANDREW TAYLOR, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON -- The National Rifle Association and its allies in the House beat back an effort Thursday to restrict gun manufacturers' exports of high-powered, .50-caliber rifles that can bring down jet airliners from a mile away.

By a 278-149 vote, the House killed an amendment by Rep. James Moran to block .50-caliber exports to civilians. He said the guns are dream weapons for terrorists.

"These are unparalleled weapons, and I'm not trying to restrict them in the United States," said Moran, D-Va. "I just don't want them sold by arms dealers."

But gun rights advocates, with backing from the powerful NRA, turned aside the amendment.

The vote came as the House wrapped up a three-day debate and passed by 418-7 a $57.5 billion spending bill for NASA and the departments of Commerce, State and Justice for the budget year beginning Oct. 1.

The Senate has yet to act on the bill.

Supporters of gun rights said the government already has ample authority to block the export of .50-caliber weapons.

"This amendment is not going to address illegal sales," said Rep. Bart Gordon, D-Tenn.

The .50-caliber rifle is the most powerful firearm in wide circulation. It can penetrate thick steel used to armor personnel carriers and is accurate at distances greater than a mile. Moran said that if someone were to use the weapons from such distances, he easily would evade law enforcement.

The risks associated with .50-caliber weapons gained attention this year after CBS' "60 Minutes" aired a report demonstrating the ease with which .50-caliber rifles could be exported to overseas militias.

But the NRA said the amendment was an unnecessary infringement on gun rights and that existing laws provide penalties for smuggling the rifles.

"There are literally dozens of gun laws on the books with very severe implications and penalties that were violated on that ("60 Minutes) show," said Chris W. Cox, the top lobbyist for the NRA.

The underlying bill provides the full $16.5 billion request by Bush for NASA, an almost 2 percent increase over this year.

It increases the Justice Department's budget by $790 million over current levels, an almost 4 percent increase.

The measure rejects big cuts proposed by Bush to Justice Department grants programs for state and local law enforcement agencies, but still leaves those programs almost $400 million below current levels.

The bill cuts Bush's request for the State Department by $251 million to $9 billion. Lawmakers are moving to trim the president's requests for defense and foreign aid-related spending and restore Bush-proposed cuts in domestic programs.
 
The US military recently listed Barrett's rifle as one of the top 10 best pieces of equipment in use today. Is it any wonder that the leftists want to put them out of business?

After all, the Left keeps clamoring that they want to see more dead soldiers on the news. What better way to make them dead than deprive them of the equipment that they need to fight?
 
report demonstrating the ease with which .50-caliber rifles could be exported to overseas militias.

Or instead of spending $7500 on just one of Barrett's rifles they could use it to buy many Russian 12.7mm or 14.5mm guns at a much lower cost and easier availability.

Every third world nation has AKs and other Russian weapons for barter for 2 chickens and a pack of American smokes. :rolleyes:
 
Bravo Sierra!

....high-powered, .50-caliber rifles that can bring down jet airliners from a mile away.
:fire:

You know, this is the type of crud that makes me want to buy a "jet airliner" and start holding the annual "jet arliner" challenge. Whereby, I get a group of anti-gun blissninnies and give them 5 shots to "bring me down" from a mile away to win a million bucks. Course I'd have to learn to fly first, and afford the plane. Lloyd's of London would definately insure the prize for minimal cash given that it's impossible.

Or better yet, I'll just fly "a mile away" for a given amount of time before I land on their stupid arses with the plane! :p Surely with that as incentive they could pull off the shot. Especially as easy as they say it is.



I.C.
 
....high-powered, .50-caliber rifles that can bring down jet airliners from a mile away.

Please.
Hell, I'll drive my truck a mile a way, and while going as fast as I possibly can, let one of these idiots try to shoot me.
 
1 mile away in the air, since he is trying to simulate an airplane passing by. Hit the turbo boost KITT!

I think we would probably not have switched from guns to missles if large small-arms bullets were effective anti-aircraft weapons. I have seen so many pictures of WWII planes (and even modern low flying planes like A10 warthogs) that were shot to pieces by .50/20mm/30mm rounds and still finished their missions and flew home in one piece. It wasnt unusual for bombers (much smaller planes than even a small commercial jetliner) to survive hits from 88 mm flak cannons which used huge exploding shells.

The very concept of using a single 50 caliber lead bullet to shoot down a plane with 4 engines, 2 pilots and and airframe many times the mass and strength of a WWII bomber is utterly retarded. I am not even sure that anyone on the plane would notice they had been hit unless the bullet actually hit someone. Even a flak artillery would be unable of shooting down a modern jet because AAA doesnt reach that high.
 
Slurpy, the utter stupidity of the "mile away" claim underscores the very clear malfeasance of any reporter who would report such a thing.

The more outrageously stupid and plainly false the claim, the more obvious the desire of the media to lie to make their case against any and all guns.

-Jeffrey
 
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