I wouldn't say zero. 300 BO runs about $1 per rd., give or take. And subsonics seem fewer and far between. I was able to buy 500 remans (half subs and half super) for under 40 cents per round.
GOOD Reman Ammo?
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Zendude
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Has anyone tried Ammo Valley? I understand that the are factory seconds from Freedom Munitions.
stchman
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Of re-manufactured ammo I have, I have Freedom Munitions and Midwest Ammunition. Both work as well as new ammo.
I don't know why people shy away from re-manufactured ammunition. If proper care is taken during the process, it is just as good as ammo made with virgin brass. With this being said, I'll only buy re-manufactured ammo if it is cheaper than stuff made with virgin brass.
I don't know why people shy away from re-manufactured ammunition. If proper care is taken during the process, it is just as good as ammo made with virgin brass. With this being said, I'll only buy re-manufactured ammo if it is cheaper than stuff made with virgin brass.
stchman
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True, but I'm sure they have much better equipment and QC than your average reloader.
Highly unlikely that somebody at Freedom Munitions, or the likes, is pulling a handle.
Liquidring
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Check out Wisconsin Cartridge, shoots as good or better that factory ammo, never had a problem with any of their ammo. Quarter size groups at 100 yards with .223 FMJ out of my CZ bolt action
LiveLife
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Not necessarily so. Even new factory ammunition varies quite a bit on OAL/COL and powder charge variance which will affect accuracy. Remanufactured ammunition is same or worse while my reloads will vary with less than .005" OAL (less than .003" with more consistent projectiles) and less than .1 gr powder charge (less than .05 gr with some powders like Alliant Sport Pistol). You won't see these levels of consistency with factory/remanufactured ammunition.
When I started shooting USPSA matches, I compared various factory ammunition and used the ones that produced smallest shot groups. After I started reloading, my group size shrank by 40% over best of factory ammunition.
My reloads average 2" groups at 25 yards using factory pistols - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...ts-and-discussions.778197/page-6#post-9924922
More like AmmoLoad and Camdex machines for higher volume production
Remanufactured ammunition from LAX Ammo, American Quality Ammo and Bitterroot Valley Ammunition Company (BVAC) has all worked well for me. Calibers have included 9mm (FMJ and JHP), .38 Special (FMJ), .40S&W (FMJ and JHP), .45ACP (FMJ and JHP), and .223 Rem (FMJ and soft point).
stchman
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I think people have apprehension about buying re-maufactured ammo as they think their gun will blow up if they use it. Using professionally re-manufactured ammunition your at about as much risk of your gun blowing up than if you bought factory new ammo. I'll but re-manufacturered ammo as long as it costs less than factory new.
I've seen a few rifles and pistols blow up at the range and they were all a result of reloaders that did something wrong. I stand by my statement that ammo re-manufacturers have better equipment and certainly better QC than your AVERAGE re-loader. I'm sure every re-loader thinks they are the exception.
LiveLife
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I agree with this but will add this may be due to people new to reloading or people reloading while distracted and making mistakes.
Most of us fall while learning to walk or ride a bicycle. Some people still fall occasionally after they have mastered walking.
I disagree as I qualified my post that my USPSA match loads produced smaller shot groups than factory ammunition. Talk to enough match shooters and they will tell you the same thing.
Your AVERAGE USPSA/IDPA match shooters, especially your AVERAGE bullseye match shooters and certainly your AVERAGE long-range F-class, bench rest and 1000 yard Palma match shooters will tell you their match loads will outshoot factory ammunition.
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That's for sure. Check out this video.
bearcreek, thanks for posting the video!
I reload .45 for 16 cents per rd, 9mm for 13 cents, .380 for 13 cents, and .44mag for 17 cents.
Still worth it for me.
Ever cast your own bullets? That's where I've found the real savings to be if you have the time. 9 mm costs me less than .22 LR.
Yeah, that’s really the way to save.
I don’t think I’m going there.
Is this sarcasm?
Absolutely not!
I just have no interest in casting bullets.
I totally agree that it’s much cheaper to cast your own bullets!
Ok. Sorry, couldn't tell for sure. Personally I don't think it's worth reloading FMJ bullets when I can get remanufactured ones for only $20-$30 more per thousand rds. That's a lot of time to use up to save $30. Guess it comes down to what you would have done with that time otherwise.
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