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Goodbye Canadian Gun Registry

Discussion in 'Legal' started by usmarine0352_2005, Apr 4, 2012.

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  1. usmarine0352_2005

    usmarine0352_2005 Member

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    Today should be the vote for C-19 which abolishes the Canadian Gun Registry. After that all it needs is the signature of the Governor General which is assured.



    Good riddance.



    http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Death+long+registry+heads+final+vote+Senate/6411295/story.html


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  2. TurtlePhish

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    Good riddance. Congrats to all the Canadians here on THR!
     
  3. Carne Frio

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    That's great new; our neighbors getting a little more freedom !
     
  4. BCRider

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    Slight correction. It's only the non restricted long gun registry that covers the majority of rifles and shotguns which is getting the axe.

    The registry for restricted and prohibited status firearms will continue as before. Examples of restricted firearms are all handguns which are not prohibited status, some short barrel rifles and shotguns and a fairly wide variety of AR style "black rifles".

    So while it may not be the big victory we're now far better off up this way than the poor souls stuck in California.... :D
     
  5. Old krow

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    Congrats!!
     
  6. Johannes_Paulsen

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    Good for Canada. Rights that have been chipped away piece by piece over time may take equally long to restore piecemeal. In the meantime, a win's a win.
     
  7. Nushif

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    Grats! Always good to see the proliferation of privately owned arms. 8)
     
  8. Vern Humphrey

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    Do what we do down here -- keep plugging away, and slowly the restrictions will fall.
     
  9. idcurrie

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    I'm a Canadian.

    Bill C-68 in 1995 which criminalized the ownership of firearms except with a 5 year license, the registry, and many sections of the bill which violate the Charter of Rights and Freedoms CREATED the 'gun lobby' in Canada.

    There was none before C68 in 1995 to speak of.

    This group of law abiding pissed off Canadians has been growing larger, stronger, and more organized every year.

    More political donations organized en masse, more letter writing organized en-masse, marches on Parliament Hill, strategic donating and voting to ridings to ensure anti-gun MPs were not re-elected (mark holland), and creation and funding of two powerful lobby groups have led us to this proud day.

    This is just the beginning. The real monster in C68, the criminalization of firearms ownership without a 5 year license needs to go next.

    Mark my words: Liberals have pushed us too far! This is just the beginning. Gun control in Canada is coming to an END!
     
  10. Nushif

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    Fixed that for you.
     
  11. bergmen

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    Hardly. We can have handguns with barrels less than 105mm, large capacity magazines for both handguns and semi-automatic centerfire rifles (only the transfer of ownership is prohibited), .25 and .32 caliber handguns, pepper spray, we can defend ourselves with firearms if our lives are in danger in public or in our homes, we need no licenses to purchase any firearm, concealed carry of handguns is "shall issue" in about 41 of the 58 counties, yada, yada, yada.

    Plus, we have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms which is non-existant in Canada.

    There is more, much more but I would MUCH prefer the gun laws in California to those in Canada, especially my CCW license I have held for the past ten years.

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  12. Pfletch83

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    I'm not going to mention the gun laws in KY because it would make too many anti-gunners weep.

    Back to the O.T.

    Glad to hear that the folks up north are learning how to hold anti-gun politico's feet to the fire.

    Keep slugging it out with them and you'll see your freedoms return (Something about anti-gunners and being in a long fight....they don't tend to have the staying power)
     
  13. usmarine0352_2005

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    The final step in getting rid of the long gun registry is the signature of the Governor General, which was supposed to happen this morning.



    It didn't happen, what happened?





    Anyone know when it will be signed now?
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  14. idcurrie

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    Yes, The MP who introduced the bill says the signing is happening this evening. People just assumed it was this morning.
     
  15. dak0ta

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    Cdn Firearm Registry abolished (now delayed due to Quebec)

    http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/0...ords-halted-at-eleventh-hour-by-quebec-court/

    Our Conservative government almost successfully destroyed our long gun registry today, but Quebec halted it at the 11th hour saying that they want to keep Quebec's records on gun owners! Quebec politicians, feminist movements are the main opponents.

    Our registry was put in place in 1995 after a shooting spree against women in Quebec by a crazed shooter with a Mini-14 and hi-cap mags. The aftermath was the Liberal government (read 'Lie'beral) requiring registration of all long guns and handguns etc. As well as the 10 shot magazine capacity limit on semi-automatic weapons!!!!

    Just remember how good your gun laws are and NEVER ever let such laws be implemented in the US.
     
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    I don't understand why they won't let Quebec leave.
     
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    If Quebec leaves, our economy may be crippled and the country will be physically be divided in 2. So basically the Cdn government has bowed to all of Quebec's wishes to keep them content.
     
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    Didn't the nitwit who did that try and FA the gun and screw up and make it bolt action? Someone told me that once.
     
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    So the Governor General is no longer signing it this evening?
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  21. wannabeagunsmith

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    Wow! Never thought I would see the day.
     
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    Considering that there is an actual Liberal party in Canada, it didn't need to be fixed.
     
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    dak0ta, you must live in QB, not AB or BC...AB and BC would love to see QB silde off into the ocean and resurface on the coat of France...let them go.
     
  24. idcurrie

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    Exactly.

    For those not in the know:

    For many decades the Liberal party was considered the 'natural governing party' by most Canadians.

    When C-68 was introduced by the Liberal Majority Government in 1995 it:

    -Made possession of a firearm a criminal offense unless you held a valid license which is only good for 5 years.

    -Made possession of a firearm without a valid registration certificate a criminal offense.

    -Enacted strict and draconian laws regarding storage of firearms and how they are transported, including requiring special 'authorization to transport' a handgun from point A to point B

    -Enabled confiscation without compensation of firearms which were reclassified by bureaucrats without an act of parliament and confiscation without classification upon expiry of license.

    -Only permitted to own handgun with 'valid reason' at CFO discretion. Self defense is not allowed as valid reason.

    -Allowed 'unconstitutional' searches of the home without permission or warrant because either a)reason to believe 10 or more firearms are present or b)a single restricted firearm (handgun) is present.

    -many more bad things


    During the 1995 enactment of C-68, the Liberal Majority Government limited debate in Parliament and Senate to the absolute minimum and forced the bills through by having the majority of seat in both.

    After great public outcry, marches on parliament hill, Public Safety Minister Alan Rock famously declared THE DEBATE IS OVER! and the bill was passed.






    Well, here we are 17 years later. Our new conservative majority government has rammed the new C-19 bill, repealment of the long gun registry, through parliament while limiting debate just like the Liberal Government did in 1995.

    Looks like, Mr Rock, the debate was not quite over.


    We have won a single victory here. Many parts of C68 are still intact. There's a long way to go!


    As a point of interest, before C68 was enacted, the government estimated that there were over 21 million firearms in Canada by import records. This number does not include firearms made domestically such as those by Cooey, Colt, and Lakefield (savage now). That figure also doesn't include all those imported since 1995. At its height, the long gun registry only had a record of 7 million firearms.

    That leaves, conservatively, 3/4 of the firearms in the country unregistered in a massive act of civil disobedience by true patriot Canadians against a bad law.

    Now that the LGR is toast, those 21million firearms can finally come out of the closet.
     
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  25. Carl N. Brown

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    I thought they had been lost in tragic boating accidents.
     
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