Got a P938 for conceal carry...
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Ruger Redhawk
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That F.I. Industries Model D brings back some old memories. I bought a Model D back in the early 1970's.
I was very new to guns and the dealer recommended it to me.
Without going to dig into my records all I remember is that I ended up selling or trading it off years ago. Back then the 380 cartridge left allot to be desired. The little I remember about the Model D it wasn't to bad a gun, a Colt look alike.
Gravedigger56
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What can I say!
Recently I had a brain fart and thought I'd replace my P938 with a Kimber Micro because of the smaller size. BIG MISTAKE! I've had nothing but problems with it... FTF, slide doesn't lock back and slide failure to return to battery without assistance. Granted it was dirty from shooting a hundred rounds through it but that is still not acceptable. My P938 welcomes it! I swear that the filthier it gets at the range the better it shoots.
Needless to say, the Kimber has been retired to the safe and the P938 is back in the holster.
Recently I had a brain fart and thought I'd replace my P938 with a Kimber Micro because of the smaller size. BIG MISTAKE! I've had nothing but problems with it... FTF, slide doesn't lock back and slide failure to return to battery without assistance. Granted it was dirty from shooting a hundred rounds through it but that is still not acceptable. My P938 welcomes it! I swear that the filthier it gets at the range the better it shoots.
Needless to say, the Kimber has been retired to the safe and the P938 is back in the holster.
Ruger Redhawk
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Gravedigger56,
I hate hearing that about your Kimber Micro.
I've never owned any of Kimber's line of guns. I have thrown the idea around about looking into the Micro although the little Sig P938 is a perfect size to me. I really don't think I'd be happy with something smaller.
After reading your post I won't waste my time. You aren't the first I've heard of being really disappointed with the Kimber's. The worst part is for what the Kimber's cost you would expect a gun that functions 100% reliably.
Thanks but no thanks I'll stick with my Sigs.
My Sig P 938 would probably be one of the last guns I would ever consider selling or trading off.
I hate hearing that about your Kimber Micro.
I've never owned any of Kimber's line of guns. I have thrown the idea around about looking into the Micro although the little Sig P938 is a perfect size to me. I really don't think I'd be happy with something smaller.
After reading your post I won't waste my time. You aren't the first I've heard of being really disappointed with the Kimber's. The worst part is for what the Kimber's cost you would expect a gun that functions 100% reliably.
Thanks but no thanks I'll stick with my Sigs.
My Sig P 938 would probably be one of the last guns I would ever consider selling or trading off.
Ruger Redhawk
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That's a good possibility. Seems to me if I remember right and I may have been giving the wrong info that the Model D was a copy of the Colt Pony. I wish I could remember but after 40 years or so most things are forgotten.Ruger Redhawk, actually, unless I'm mistaken, . . . the F.I. Model D came before the Colt.
But yeah, it is a decent gun.
I'm not familiar with the Colt Pony. Even working for a LGS which was in the early to mid 1970's that was a Colt distributor the Pony doesn't ring any bells.
Now you have my curiosity up. I'm going to see what I can find on the computer about either of these guns.
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I looked real quick. Unless there was an earlier Colt Pony the Pony wasn't introduced until 1997 and has since been discontinued. So the info I was given doesn't add up and you are correct.
Looking around I found an ad and apparently someone heard the same thing. Here's a description to an ad I found
FI Industries Washington DC Model D .380 ACP / colt pony ...
If I find anything else I'll post it.
tcoz
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My P938 SAS is great for EDC. It's light, accurate and easily concealed. Just as an FYI, both my friend and I have them and both of ours developed an issue well after break in where the hammer would follow the slide back about once every one or two mags. Not what you want in your carry gun. Sig service seemed aware of the issue and had us send them back right away. They replaced a number of parts (I'm at work and can't check the work order to see which ones) and we had them back in 7-10 days. No more issues.
JWH321
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I have had a 938 for about three years now. It gets carried regularly. It has been totally reliable and accurate. Mine has the Hogue rubber grips. It has fired well over a thousand rounds with no issues. But it is not a range gun and firing it 50 rounds or so on the range is about all my wrists and hands can take. There are times that I feel like its pretty heavy. I replaced its trigger with a smooth faced stainless one from an outfit called Tillamook. The original trigger hurt my finger enough to make it bleed (and no, I do not have girly hands). The stainless steel version is perfect.
But in spite of the comfort issues, its a great little gun that will stay with me as long as I can still point it.
Mine came with a laser. I have never taken it out of the plastic wrapper. It was some sort of marketing gimmick I guess. It doesn't look very well made. It also came with a plastic holster. I never took it out of the plastic wrapper either.
But in spite of the comfort issues, its a great little gun that will stay with me as long as I can still point it.
Mine came with a laser. I have never taken it out of the plastic wrapper. It was some sort of marketing gimmick I guess. It doesn't look very well made. It also came with a plastic holster. I never took it out of the plastic wrapper either.
Ibmikey
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Ruger, A little bit of history on pocket pistols, the current favorites like your P938 are derived from the Star Model D (few imported to US) and the more familiar Model DK which incorporated an aluminum frame. The DK made it's way to the US in the early fifties in fairly large numbers, the 68 gun control fiasco stopped importation so FI (the importer of all Star pistols at that time) made a steel frame in the US and imported kits of parts to build pistols. The first of these pistols were provided to Colt with Colt Pony markings and S/N prefix CPA, after evaluating approximately 100 pistols Colt (in all their corporate wisdom) rejected the program and most pistols were returned to FI, scrubbed of Colt markings and remarked FI (I have a "scrubbed"pistol) then released as the FI model D. The CPA prefix was continued throughout FI production. Later the Mustang appeared which is a slightly more modern Model D, again with the new popularity of the micro 380 style of pistol Sig released the 238 and Kimber the Micro....all of these pistols are simply a modern version of the ole' Star DK. I have all of the pistols mentioned (oh forgot the IJ Pony...same pistol as Mod D) and find it interesting that mags for the Sig, Colt and Kimber Micro all interchange and would also fit the DK and FI if not for differences in the bottom of the frame. My Sig's, Colt and Micro all run flawlessly and always have and I find it interesting that one poster had Micro difficulties, rather than storing in the safe I would return it to Kimber and have it made right, they are really fun shooting little pistols.
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Orion8472
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ibmikey, thanks for the refresher on this information. It really is an interesting bit of history. I have contemplated selling my F.I., but really, it is such an interesting piece . . . . . . . .and realistically probably wouldn't bring in much money in resale, . . . . . I'll keep it.
Prince Yamato
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Those are absolutely excellent guns. Nice purchase!
Sig 938 is my EDC but sometimes for a change will still carry my colt off mod.. really like them both but the 938 is just to handy and you can darn near forget it there..... both have been problem free for me but friends have stove piped my colt couple times.... but both those guys seldom shoot.....
Ruger Redhawk
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Thanks for the info! Quite interesting reading the history you provided about these different guns.
I sorter wish I had kept that FI Model D but I really had no use for it. I got rid of it long before the State of Florida enacted the "Right to Carry" laws which has since spread across the country. I've kept up my Florida CCW since 1987.(it's a non resident now) so I've been legally carrying since 1987.
I have several carry guns. I'd have to say my little Sig P938 is my all time favorite. The size is just right for carrying.
I can wear it all day and most of the time not even realize I have it on. I put a 9mm as a minimum cartridge for carrying. I'd much rather carry one of my 45 ACP's but they are just to large to comfortably carry concealed ,especially for any length of time.
Let me come back to add this.
I've put a few hundred rounds through my P938 and the recoil to me isn't bad at all. I mean it's only a little 9mm LOL.
I read where some think the recoil is pretty stout shooting the 9mm P 938's. The wife shot mine and she thought it was a little more than she wanted but she was able to handle it.
She was glad she went with the P 238 instead though. I guess it's all in what you get use to shooting.
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