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So my dad had some excess trade in credit with a hunting store and surprised me with a great gift this week...a Randall 11 Alaskan Skinner with a 4.5" blade and stag handle with finger grooves. It's a thing of beauty. And I'm sure one of my three sons will fight over it one day down the road.

Can't wait to break it in on a deer next month...no way this thing sits on the shelf.

Mark
 

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Beautiful Randall Model 11 you've got there along with a great (and very generous), Dad! Love my Model 1 which I had custom made many years ago as specified by author David E. Steele in his book, "Secrets of Modern Knife Fighting". knives2043_zps68919012.jpg
 
mmmmmmmm....... Randall........

Very nice blade, great luck to you on the upcoming season!
 
Thanks guys. I've got a great father (and generous!). I can't get over how good it feels in the hand--can't really put a description to it other than it just feels right. And on top of that it is a beauty.

I know Randalls, like Cooper Rifles, get a lot of people fired up because of the cost but they both make a damn good product.

Mark
 
Citadel99

Nice knife and thanks for posting the photo to share with us.

Oh yeah and.....If you ain't Olde Corps , ..........you ain't scarred up mentally and physically near as bad as some.

-kBob
 
Congrats

I had wanted a Randall for decades,finally got a couple and the one I did not use was the #5.

So that went bye bye and I got one of my GRAIL knives = the #1 Randall with leather washer handles.

I get amazing looks when I take it out and use it,seems to me that 99% of all Randalls are safe queens and that is NOT why Randall made um.

I keep her sharp and clean,she does all that I ask of her,I also have a Triathelete and a smaller one called bird knife [ cant recall either numbers on them ].

The Triathelete is worn in a kydex sheath as a necker.

Hope you use the heck out of your's --- and pic's would be cool.
 
Citadel99

Beautiful Randall Model 11 you've got there along with a great (and very generous), Dad! Love my Model 1 which I had custom made many years ago as specified by author David E. Steele in his book, "Secrets of Modern Knife Fighting". knives2043_zps68919012.jpg

Now there is a book I bought about 35 years ago and haven't thought about for almost as long. Personally I think the knife is great, I have owned two Randalls, but I think David E. Steele's techniques are no longer well regarded.
 
Well a round handle gives no "index" so in the dark it is hard to know if the blade will go between the ribs ect. The finger grip option was not available until the 80s I believe on the model #1 The Model 14 solved that problem and is the best Fighter Randall made IMHO.. Also a round aspect handle can twist in your grip much easier than a flattened aspect grip and that IS a big deal in heavy wet work.
 
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I kinda disagree.

The Randell Model 1 leather round handle curvature at least, fits the hand only one way.
There is no mistaking it being upside down or sideways in the dark once you handle one a little while.

Finger grooves somewhat limit you, especially the modern over-done ones seen so often now.

rc
 
"Finger grooves somewhat limit you, especially the modern over-done ones seen so often now."
Agree and that is why in 1979 the Border patrol variation was invented which smoothed out the hot spots the Model 14 had.

Yes the "duelling " curve of the older leather ringed handled Randall #1s do only "fit " in one direction -kinda , and they don't slip very much either. Unfortunatly as I found out on the #1-8 I had from 1967 -1973, they don't hold up in wet environs that well and I considered the #14 a vast improvement. My CHP son still has my Model 14 Attack and allways will I guess.
 
"Finger grooves somewhat limit you, especially the modern over-done ones seen so often now."
Agree and that is why in 1979 the Border patrol variation was invented which smoothed out the hot spots the Model 14 had.

Yes the "duelling " curve of the older leather ringed handled Randall #1s do only "fit " in one direction -kinda , and they don't slip very much either. Unfortunatly as I found out on the #1-8 I had from 1967 -1973, they don't hold up in wet environs that well and I considered the #14 a vast improvement. My CHP son still has my Model 14 Attack and allways will I guess.

In the 1980s I owned two Model 14s, a 5.5" and 7.5". The finger groves were definitely a mixed blessing, but the lack of a leather grip was definitely an asset. I saw several leather washer grips disintegrate on other guys knives. In the field I came to the conclusion that the 14's utility for what I did with knives was limited. Both were sold. I don't doubt other people find the large Randalls very useful. For me pocket multi-tools and a hatchet or small machete (depending on terrain) has proven to be more utilitarian. Neither of which has the excellent craftsmanship and beauty of a Randall.
 
Leather washer handles

Sorry to hijack this,but I NEED to defend the leather washer handles.

I own a few blades that saw LOTS of use in WWII,leather washer handles and all = they are still users.

Mike Stewart of BKK&T has a FEW really nice WWI and WWII leather washer handled blades ,and they are beautiful.

All were users,so not kept up in the 'trenches' [ so to speak ].

I happen to love that material,and my 1-7 and the matching Blackjack 1-7 are used and still in great shape.

btw,Randall makes a 1-8 with a very slight finger groove that is elegant in the hand !!!
 
+1

I still have my fathers Cattaraugus 225Q he carried in the South Pacific all the way through WWII.

The sheath jungle rotted off it before 1955.
But the leather ring handle is as good as the day they made it.

Same with a pretty good collection of WWII commercial shark knives, Kabars, M3 fighting knives, and ancient old Marbles, Western, Remington, & Pal hunting knives.

IMO: it appears to me the carbon steel blades go before the leather ring handles usually do.

Randell leather handles rotting off seems pretty unlikely to me.
 
Never saw a rotten Randall leather handle but I saw and owned one that swelled up and got loose on a couple rings. It was noticeable but still sold it for a pretty penny years ago.FWIW I've seen quite a few of the brands named with the same kinda problem. Not saying all do or claiming I know why. It is true I have seen leather handled knives used for years on ocean fishing boats with still kinda intact handles. They have all been dark tho. Maybe they were soaked in motor oil or something ? Leather handles are beautiful to my eyes too, as is French and other walnut ect. , even stag. and certainly ivory (well maybe not mother of pearl :neener: ) but hey no way is a round aspect handle gonna work as hard as a ergonomic shape . Otherwise they would win chopping competitions for one real world example. Ones choice is certainly up to them and whom am I to say? :)
 
Well, I still like leather washer handles.

But I don't get in knife fights or live in the jungle much anymore.
And the nearest salt water is a long ways from here!

:D

IMO: The worst of the worst leather ring handles where the goofy H-Ring washers used on the goofy double tang Western's back then.

I think some of them broke before they got them boxed up to ship to the war!
I did get halfway good at replacing them though.

Top knife Original WWII Western L-77.
Bottom knife one I restored with new leather H-rings & both sheaths.

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rc
 
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...... I saw several leather washer grips disintegrate on other guys knives......

Apparently I struck a nerve with my comment about leather washer knife grips. I would not want anyone to take my comment as gospel. My experience was limited to seeing the a few K-bars and clones with grips that while still functional were looking pretty rough and on their way to failure. They looked worse than RCModel’s before picture. My choice of wording was poor, I should have written “beginning to disintegrate”. I saw these at Fort Bragg and the people owning them almost certainly did not take the best of care of them and they may have been exposed to more POL than average. I never saw a Randall with a leather grip failure. This was during the time of the first “Rambo” movie and I saw many dumb things being done with knives. I saw so many tips broken off Gerber Mark IIs you would have thought Gerber was selling funny looking screwdrivers.
 
@ rcmodel

You did a GREAT job of remaking those handles AND sheath.

I do like that blade shape = not the handle too much :D.

I have seen MANY more solid OLD leather washer handles --- than I have seen rotted and destroyed ones.

I am up there in age,so take it for what its worth.

Most of the old stuff at gun show and military shows ,still has serviceable and decent handles left --- and we can be pretty sure they were not kept in nice places.

Judging from the color and possible blood on them [ look at the blades to see ].
 
A pair of randalls

I’ve been reading as many Randall threads as I could find over a period of several evenings, and enjoying immensely the pictures and trying to absorb all the information imparted. And yes, I’ll admit to more than just a little envy when seeing all those gorgeous Randall-Made knives. I have also noted there are more than a few who seem to, well, disdain Randall’s – ah well, to each his own, and ‘there’s no accounting for taste’.
I recently had the opportunity to photograph this set belonging to a retired U. S. Army officer who served two tours in Vietnam, 1967-’68 and 1972. His first tour was in the 199th Infantry Brigade and the second was as a ‘spook’ (his term) ostensibly assigned to a MACV team in the Central Highlands. He wanted to make it clear that these Randalls were not carried over there, but he did carry a Buck 120 on his first tour and a Solingen-bladed model 14 in 1972. When asked if he still had those knives, he was very candid in admitting he stupidly traded them off for things long since forgotten.
For the collector / enthusiast / reader, this matched pair was ordered from RMK in mid-July, 2003, and was shipped in mid-March, 2007. Originally handled in leather, the blades are 8” stainless steel, with nickel-silver guards and aluminum butt caps. The current handles, I’m told, were done by Martin Knives in Caddo Mills, Texas. They are constructed of ‘antique ivory’ micarta, and a mix of other materials (G10 and micarta ?) to form the Vietnam Service ribbon colors. He admitted the handles are pudgy looking, but they fit his rather large hands perfectly.
I think it’s a very relevant, even elegant, memorial of an old soldier, recalling those most dynamic times of his life.
 

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Your Randall No. 1 still looks to be in great shape. My brother who served in the Army for over 22 years was awfully hard on knives (Airborne, Pathfinder, and Ranger training), but those old Ontario made Air Force Survival Knives were always a favorite of his in the field. Every so often he would send one of them back to me to fix them up as best I could for another go around and never in all that time was there ever a problem with the knife's leather washers. The blade typically needed some work but the leather handles held up great over all that time of heavy duty use.
 
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