budney
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What an experience!
First, to skip forward to the end, I have three questions for anyone who knows:
1) When taking my prints with the fancy scanner gizmo, the machine twice said "No Match," and the trooper clicked on them and answered "Yes" to the question, "Override and use these rejected prints?" Is that likely to cause a problem when I submit the print cards to Utah, Florida and Connecticut?
2) The CT application had a standard blue form and an unusual green form (CT-129, if I recall correctly). The trooper tried to use ink, and put a very faint left thumbprint in the right thumprint box, pronounced the form ruined, and suggested I fill it out but attach a standard blue card for the prints. Is this likely to result in a rejection? (I'll call CT soon; just wondering if anyone knows.)
3) The standard cards from FL and CT both had the ORI field completed. The trooper couldn't figure out how to print cards without printing the ORI, or to change the ORI to the FL or CT ones. So he printed two cards, whited out the ORI, and wrote in the CT and FL ORIs. Is that likely to cause a problem?
Sorry to spoil the story by putting the questions first, but I'm hoping someone can fill me in. Needless to say, what I thought would be a quick and painless process was quite painful after all.
The trip started out at 15:00, when I dragged my son off to the PSP barracks a half hour away. We too 45 minutes to get there, because the Internet directions were bad and I missed a turn. After we got there, we waited almost a half hour before they got around to us.
When the trooper came out, I gave him my cards, and told him I needed a printout for FL, one for UT, two for CT, and one for my records. He went in the back for a while, and then came out demanding to know "why so many states?" I told him: "FL for when I go there on business; CT for when I visit family; and UT to cover the states in between." That satisfied him, and he ushered my son and I into the back.
Having been forewarned, my carry was locked in the glove compartment. I put the two magazines aside, got wanded, and put them back in my pocket. He was cool through this procedure.
At the scanner, the trooper had trouble setting up the form; after a while I inquired and he said he was trying to find a way to either change the ORI or leave it blank, and he couldn't figure out how. I suggested putting postits over the ORIs and putting my forms through, and he indicated that he'd be in big trouble if the printer jammed. He finally printed a bunch of cards and whited out the ORI, copying the data from the CT and FL cards and leaving the IT card's ORI blank.
Then he tried to figure a way to print to the CT green card, and couldn't come up with anything. Reluctantly, he rolled out some ink (which was pretty dry), inked my left thumb, and planted it in the right-thumb box. After looking at it a while, he declared that it was obviously a left thumb in a right-thumb box, so the form was botched. He printed another regular card to attach, and wrote an apology/explanation on a postit.
Finally he fingerprinted my son and printed two cards, one for me and one for Josh. Unfortunately, it wasn't the fun and interesting process I'd hoped for, because by that point he was pretty bored--and incidentally, was late for his own birthday party. We made it home by 18:15, an hour and a quarter late for his party. Luckily, the party went well and my saint of a wife did a good job covering for me.
All in all, my compliments to the trooper, who was very cooperative and helpful, and never lost patience with us. I was just a bit surprised that it wasn't a routine, quicky operation, and now I'm a bit worried that one or more of the three states will require me to have them redone after all this.
--Len.
First, to skip forward to the end, I have three questions for anyone who knows:
1) When taking my prints with the fancy scanner gizmo, the machine twice said "No Match," and the trooper clicked on them and answered "Yes" to the question, "Override and use these rejected prints?" Is that likely to cause a problem when I submit the print cards to Utah, Florida and Connecticut?
2) The CT application had a standard blue form and an unusual green form (CT-129, if I recall correctly). The trooper tried to use ink, and put a very faint left thumbprint in the right thumprint box, pronounced the form ruined, and suggested I fill it out but attach a standard blue card for the prints. Is this likely to result in a rejection? (I'll call CT soon; just wondering if anyone knows.)
3) The standard cards from FL and CT both had the ORI field completed. The trooper couldn't figure out how to print cards without printing the ORI, or to change the ORI to the FL or CT ones. So he printed two cards, whited out the ORI, and wrote in the CT and FL ORIs. Is that likely to cause a problem?
Sorry to spoil the story by putting the questions first, but I'm hoping someone can fill me in. Needless to say, what I thought would be a quick and painless process was quite painful after all.
The trip started out at 15:00, when I dragged my son off to the PSP barracks a half hour away. We too 45 minutes to get there, because the Internet directions were bad and I missed a turn. After we got there, we waited almost a half hour before they got around to us.
When the trooper came out, I gave him my cards, and told him I needed a printout for FL, one for UT, two for CT, and one for my records. He went in the back for a while, and then came out demanding to know "why so many states?" I told him: "FL for when I go there on business; CT for when I visit family; and UT to cover the states in between." That satisfied him, and he ushered my son and I into the back.
Having been forewarned, my carry was locked in the glove compartment. I put the two magazines aside, got wanded, and put them back in my pocket. He was cool through this procedure.
At the scanner, the trooper had trouble setting up the form; after a while I inquired and he said he was trying to find a way to either change the ORI or leave it blank, and he couldn't figure out how. I suggested putting postits over the ORIs and putting my forms through, and he indicated that he'd be in big trouble if the printer jammed. He finally printed a bunch of cards and whited out the ORI, copying the data from the CT and FL cards and leaving the IT card's ORI blank.
Then he tried to figure a way to print to the CT green card, and couldn't come up with anything. Reluctantly, he rolled out some ink (which was pretty dry), inked my left thumb, and planted it in the right-thumb box. After looking at it a while, he declared that it was obviously a left thumb in a right-thumb box, so the form was botched. He printed another regular card to attach, and wrote an apology/explanation on a postit.
Finally he fingerprinted my son and printed two cards, one for me and one for Josh. Unfortunately, it wasn't the fun and interesting process I'd hoped for, because by that point he was pretty bored--and incidentally, was late for his own birthday party. We made it home by 18:15, an hour and a quarter late for his party. Luckily, the party went well and my saint of a wife did a good job covering for me.
All in all, my compliments to the trooper, who was very cooperative and helpful, and never lost patience with us. I was just a bit surprised that it wasn't a routine, quicky operation, and now I'm a bit worried that one or more of the three states will require me to have them redone after all this.
--Len.
