Grade 1 Sig 228 has arrived

[nathan]

On examination it is all excellent. The serial number started with a B xxxxx. Thus this says its all West German made? I cleaned it well and will shoot maybe 2 boxes of WWB tomorrow. Another thing do must Sig 228 shoot low at 25 yds or high? If I look at the muzzle end it seems the muzzle is pointing downward as I can see a gap at 12 o clock between barrel and slide if looking in the front. Im trying to dry fire and practice with the trigger as its double action for first shop as Im not used to heavy trigger. THe single action is nice though on this 228. Will dry firing cause parts damage or its ok?
How many pounds is the recoil spring of the 228?
THanks

 

[Trebor]

Where'd you get it? Who has used 228's and how much?

Edit: To answer some of your questions. I can't say if your pistol will shoot low or high. It depends on the height of your front sight and the bullet weight. Just aim dead center and see where it prints. Dry firing won't hurt the gun. Don't know the recoil spring weight.

 

[LiquidTension]

I believe the factory recoil spring is 16lbs on a 228.

 

[nathan]

I got it from Auctionarms.com I think he has one right now for $579. I live close by so I drop at his place and paid little less than that. He said these are hard to come by from SIg itself, is that so? Look s like with the rave and reviews of the 228 the demand soured since SIg stop making them. THe 229 I saw one and its just as good. The oen that amazesme is the SIg 220 in SAO. The trigger is light years ahead of any customized 1911.

 

[Navy87Guy]

Where'd you get it? Who has used 228's and how much?

I have a package for a P228 and a bunch of accessories listed in the classifieds section. Email me if you're interested.

Jim

 

[caleb]

Sig's are generally POI. The low barrel in the frame is a Sig oddity.

 

[nathan]

ANyway I called Sig for info on the this particular 228, I wanted to know the history and the guy said they dont have any based on the serial no. He said its one of those earlier version. Surprising indeed why even with the serial no he has no exact date . Could it be they trash all old records. Mine has the Harndon, VA on the left side. He only said its the old address they had before and didnt made so much pistols back then.
Also when I disassebld the gun I see an electropenciled small initials "mp" on the inner side of the slide. Could this be part of a military police or could mean anything? Im beginning to love this pistol even if I havent shot it yet.
Humm , if this thihg shoots good, I may get me a Sig 229 in 9 mm as the mags are interchangeable with the 228.

 

[Falconeer]

Humm , if this thihg shoots good, I may get me a Sig 229 in 9 mm as the mags are interchangeable with the 228.

I have a P229 in 357 Sig (my CCW gun) and a P228. Love them both!!

You might want to look at doing a P226 in 9mm next; with the P226 you have a 'full size' auto and a medium size with the P228. The 9mm P226 mags fit the P228 as well, though they'll stick out the bottom of the well a bit. The P228 & P229 are virtually identical in frame size. The slide on the P229 is a bit beefier to handle the increased power of the .40 S&W & 357 Sig cartridges.

I do so miss my P226R (traded it away). :banghead:

 

[nathan]

On close examination of my 228, I see theres a number 8 inscribed on left side of front sight. Is this typical factory installed tall front sight? Whats the standard zero for Sig factory , 25 or 50 yds? Just curious...

 

[Master Blaster]

The barrel being low in the opening with a space at the 12:00 position in the slide is normal for a SIG it allows the barrel to tilt ahd clear the slide when the slide cycles, as you fire the gun it will rub a shinney spot on the top and bottom of the barrel these are known as SIG Smileys and are normal.
If you look at the rear sight it has a number on it as well. It corresponds to the height of the sight. Go do a search on the SIGarms site and there is something on the sight numbers that explains what comes on which gun and how to change the front or rear sight to raise or lower the point of impact. You will need a sight pusher to do this though.
SIG has a standard set of numbered sights and they are used interchangeably on all of their guns depending on the caliber

Lube it well and take it out and shoot it with some good quality ammo and let us know how you make out.

 

[nathan]

Yes I see theres also a number 8 on the rear sight. I planning to buy some WInchester WB in Walmart and see how this baby rocks. Im quite used to dry firing this gun and confident i will make good grps. Thanks

 

[nathan]

I went to shoot it today. Brought along the Walmart WWB 115 gr FMJ. At 7 yards on sandbag on single action I had an amazing one rugged hole shot maybe 10 rounds repeatedly. I was very amazed then I proceeded to shoot two handed grip standing. Still set on SAO emptied the whole mag . Grouped poorly about 3 inch spread and POI is 3 inches to the left. I loaded another clip and fired and still teh POI is left of POA. COuld it be my grip, the left hand conpensating so the shots go left?
ANyway I went into 20 yds . On sandbag I slowfired a magazineful and shots were still hitting 3 inches to left of aim. I I followed with a two hand handheld shots and still its 3 inches left of POA. THe good thing this time was I grped 2.25 inch . Pretty accurate pistol this thing is.
Now Im just puzzled why at 7 yds I had a one rugged hole dead on and at 20 yds the grp is moving to the left. DO you think I need to adjust the rear sight a little to the right to move POI? Whats the cheap way to move the sight, a punch or I need to buy a tool from Sig?
Im planning to try other ammo brand like CCI Blazer next time. I notice most practice ammo at sportsstores are 115 gr. Are there FMJs in the 124 gr weight? Thanks

 

[Falconeer]

Rounds grouping to left of POA generally indicates a too tight grip on the pistol. Try this:

1) Hold the pistol one handed, with only the thumb and middle finger holding the pistol (index finger for trigger); third and fourth (pinky) finger should be away from the grips (just loose, don't stick them straight out).
2) Get good sight alignment and MAINTAIN it; focus on the top of the front sight
3) Press the trigger while maintaining sight alignment and focus on front sight
4) The shot going off should be a surprise. Do NOT instantly look at the target; continue to drive the front sight.

I learned this from Randy Cain at his Tactical Handgun 101 class and found my groups tightened up considerably. When you go to a two handed grip you can squeeze as much as you want with the 2nd hand, but keep those extra two fingers loose.

I generally reload my ammo but have found my Sigs to be accurate with everything. Unless I'm on a rest the pistols are more accurate than I am.

The Sigs generally come from the factory dead on. Unless you suspect someone has monkeyed with the sights I'd work on fundamentals before trying anything else. I'm in much the same boat; working on getting my fundamentals down so I can shoot my Sigs as well as they're capable of.

9mm is generally found in 115grn or 124grn loadings. I believe there are also some 147grn out there and Hornady makes 124grn XTP hollow points. Accuracy should be essentially the same at usual ranges.

 

[nathan]

THanks. I will practice that grip. It may be Im holding too tight from the left side.

 

[Falconeer]

THanks. I will practice that grip. It may be Im holding too tight from the left side.

Good luck with it. I found doing some training with the one hand improved both my SA & DA shots, as well as two handed.