Grail guns, of sorts

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CraigC

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We all have guns we lust after but for whatever reason, it takes us time to actually procure one, if we ever do. It's often a "nice to have", rather than a "gotta have". Sometimes we want to hold out for one with nicer than average wood. They often cost more than standard guns and/or take some effort to hunt down. Not low hanging fruit, so to speak. Of course, it's not the low hanging fruit that's the sweetest! Here are two of mine.

I have one of those rimfire magazines from the `90's that had a High Grade, engraved reissue of the Winchester model 63 on the cover (no text inside!) and I've lusted after them ever since. Apparently the standard grade is not exactly growing on trees and the high grade is more akin to hen's teeth. Last year for my birthday, I decided to treat myself to one. Low and behold, my patience paid off because I found one that was not only still new in the box but also had much better than average wood! Most of them have the plainest, straight grain walnut I've ever seen. I topped with an older Leupold rimfire special 4x. It may look odd the way it's mounted but it's pretty much the only way to make it work. It is a wonderful rifle and just writing this makes me want to get after the local squirrels.

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The second is actually a substitute. For years, probably going back to my teenage days, I have wanted a Winchester 1894 Chief Crazy Horse commemorative, in the far-more-interesting chambering than the .30-30, the .38-55. I've always looked at the Winchester and Colt commemoratives less as collectibles and more as a less expensive way to get a nice shooter with fancy wood and/or finishes, in a configuration and/or chambering that hasn't been available in a long time. Three years ago I decided to start looking intently. What I found was the Legendary Frontiersmen model, which is the same basic configuration and chambering (straight grip, 24" round barrel, full mag and .38-55) but with a different finish and engraving on the receiver. The receiver is actually silver plated that has turned to gray. What drew my attention should be obvious, it has spectacular wood! It's been fitted with a Williams Foolproof receiver sight. It's been fired but has yet to be fully wrung out and today is the first time I've taken a picture of it. I have a whole slew of cast bullets to test out of it.

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My grail gun was always a Mannlicher Schoenauer which took me almost 40 years to find. It is a model 1905 in 9x56ms made in 1921. Last year ammo was made for that caliber in the states was in the 1930's. Took me 2 years to figure out how to correctly assemble ammunition for it. Thank goodness for Ken Waters pet loads. I have now taken several deer and hogs with it. It points like an extension of my arm and hits like the hammer of Thor. I have never seen another in the woods and precious few in gun stores. Apparently once someone gets one they don't turn loose of them. Now I too know why. Sometimes I just look at it and wish it could talk, oh the stories it would tell.
 
I have only ever handled 1 in the classic 6.5x54 caliber and one in 8x56ms. The MCA models in American calibers are more common. The old pre 1924 rifles are few and far between. More people don't want a rifle they can't mount a scope on. Tis a pity. That and collectors are taking them out of circulation. Forgot to mention price tag on that 6.5 was $2700.00 in what I would call good condition.
 
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Nice pics in this thread. Sadly, the next rifle I want to buy always tries to pass itself off as a "grail gun".

But, being a train lover (yes, I am one of those) I have lusted after a Winchester Model 94, in the Golden Spike edition.

Currently my 1894 Marlin Cowboy Limited sits in the place of the "grail gun".....
 
GraigC just gorgeous rifles.
Few weeks ago Classic Arms had one 94 in stock with a plain stock in the same caliber and I wondered myself about ammo or reload material.
 
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Just picked up my latest grail gun a guild custom built 7x57 mauser made by Willi Karl in Luneburg Germany in 1940. I went to a gun show yesterday and picked up some dies, 100 rounds of Remington brass and 20 Remington cartridges 140 grain core locs. I got 2 boxes of remington 175 grain round nose cartridges with the gun. It has a half round, half octagon barrel with full length solid rib. Barrel has a sling swivel mounted and a Schnabel forearm. Double set triggers and lots of engraving. Now to get it to the range.
 
Just picked up my latest grail gun a guild custom built 7x57 mauser made by Willi Karl in Luneburg Germany in 1940. I went to a gun show yesterday and picked up some dies, 100 rounds of Remington brass and 20 Remington cartridges 140 grain core locs. I got 2 boxes of remington 175 grain round nose cartridges with the gun. It has a half round, half octagon barrel with full length solid rib. Barrel has a sling swivel mounted and a Schnabel forearm. Double set triggers and lots of engraving. Now to get it to the range.

Pics, or it didn't happen! :)

OK, so I just wanted to make sure my salivary glands are still working......:p

Awesome acquisition of a grail gun!
 
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