LemmyCaution
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Pity the sheepdog that mistakes me for a sheep under his charge.
I agree with DarkSoldier. It is an ANALOGY! Sheepdogs, either military or law enforcement, don't "herd" or "hold" any sheep civilians for any "overlord" of "sheperd".
Because MOST ( even here ) would rather talk than walk!
If I see someone being attacked in some way, and there is a way for me to help, I will. It's not being a hero, it's called being a human.
Yes.(do sheep stampede?)
Most of you don't get it. The whole sheepdog analogy was NOT written about or for CHP/CHL/CCW holders.
The sheepdog reference is to a story recounted by David Grossman in "On Killing" that was supposedly said by somebody else. It is an analogous story about whether the listener is a sheep, sheepdog, or wolf. Many citizens think it should be a story about them in a hero role as a sheepdog, but the story is a military/police based story where cops and the military are professionally slated in their protective roles, like "sheepdogs." That is apparently the original intent.
The problems with the story are numerous and it is obviously put together by somebody who hasn't a clue about shepherding, sheep, sheepdogs, and wolves. It is really nothing more than a Warner Brothers/Looney Tunes adaptation of what goes on between Ralph (the wolf who looks like Wyle E. Coyote) and Sam, the sheepdog.
It oversimplifies the notion that anyone who isn't engage in active defense is either a criminal or part of a mindless flock following and thus a defenseless sheep. It completely negates the fact that the sheep are basically being held in concentration camps where they are imprisoned as livestock to be fleeced or butchered at the will of the rancher (a component not mentioned in the story as the evil overlord or commanding officer of the sheepdogs) and the sheepdogs do protect the sheep, but only at the command of their overload and only because the sheep are a valuable commodity to the overlord, not because the sheepdogs particularly care about sheep or have a sense or duty to the sheep. Their duty is to their master who doesn't love the sheep either. It is the primary role of the sheepdog not to protect the sheep, but to influence control over them for the overlord. They are the guards. This isn't all that different to slave owners in the south that protected their slaves so long as it suited them, using their sheepdog guards to do so.
The whole sheepdog analogy is just downright oversimplified to the point of ignorance. Grossman and some gun folks look at the role of the sheepdog as if it was some higher standard, but if applied to our society, those that hold others against their will and not for any crimes against society are not good people, but that what a sheepdog does. The sheepdog only protects the sheep from the wolves, not from the rancher. Go figure.
A sheepdog is nothing but a henchman, but a very useful one TO THE RANCHER, not to the sheep. Just because it was applied to a military context does not make it accurate, applicable, or even remotely realistic.
The sheepdog reference is to a story recounted by David Grossman in "On Killing" that was supposedly said by somebody else
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Then it is an extremely poor analogy and one that doesn't work, and as I noted, created by somebody who hasn't a clue as to the job of an actual sheepdog.
I am, however, mentally ready and prepared to defend my family, myself, and if the need arises, others as well. My service to others did not end when I received my DD214. If someone is lost, I help them with directions. If there is an accident, I stop and render aid until the Police or Fire Department arrive and release me.
Jeeze, ppl, lighten up....what's next? A thunderdome at THR for the
everlasting Battle of Hyperbole?
It's truly nice to visit these forums where a good number of those that post are as rude and disrespectful as anyone could possibly be. "I'm tougher than you", "I'm smarter than you", "I'm better than you", ad infinitum. Man, it gets old and there seems to be more and more of it every day
It's a mod with his finger on the nuke button who leaves....